E157: It's great to have guests back on to see what they’ve been up to and dive further into their creative businesses. On this episode we are joined again by engineer, entrepreneur, and artist Jay Maas to speak on how things have been since the start of his AI mastering platform Maastr since we spoke right at launch a year and a half ago. We talk over getting non-bias feedback, working with teams and coaching for the first time, and finding ways to get creative with getting your business started when your budget gets depleted. Great conversation on take two with Jay. If you haven’t listened to E65 go check it out first for context!  In This Episode We Cover Covid pivots Creating a minimal viable product and coming to marketCreative meets programmingOutside feedback Concept of teamsBeing a control freakOffloading work and collaborating Running out of money on your build Naive enough to start, audacious enough to finish itIn no mans landNon-bias feedback loop Quotes “There’s no reason to release a product that’s worse than something that already exists.” - Jay Maas “What makes this different? what makes this actually good?” - Jay Maas “You need a little bit of naivety of an idea to get into it then you need the audacity to complete it and make it happen despite what you got into.” - Host Dave Swillum  Jay’s Links Jay’s Mastering Platform (I love this thing personally)https://maastr.io/Jay’s Audio Sitehttps://www.jaymaas.com/ IG @Jay_maas Resources Noted In This Episode Optimistic Nihilism https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsXVk37bltHxD1rDPwtNM8Q E65 W/ Jay on the showhttps://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-bqytk-e256a0  Waking Up From Work Podcast Links  IG / Tik Tok / Clubhouse / Twitter / HiHo Follow & DM Me!@davewakeup Merch To Support Us!https://wakeup.itemorder.com/sale?fbclid=IwAR30nyVXdpFaax0mN0CRcC_mVjNzafbMo0spds82eoG-GMo01HG6Uq0dvzw Patreon (If you want to support the show check out our sweet offers for you)https://www.patreon.com/wakingupfromwork Facebook Community to connect to creativeshttps://www.facebook.com/groups/wakingupfromwork/about/ Email[email protected] Youtube Channel & Serieshttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber For audio advice and more in depth music content from Davewww.crawlspaceaudio.com Dave’s Indie Band Broadwinghttps://distrokid.com/hyperfollow/broadwing/tennessee