Joanna and Zach are joined by VinePair managing editor Hannah Staab to discuss the merits and ethics of the "secret" wine list: special bottles that for one reason or another aren't listed normally, but might be available if you know the right person or ask the right question (or stalk the wine bar on Instagram). Is this a harmless and fun way to reward wine lovers and devotees, or is it yet another way to promote snobbery and elitism within wine? Please remember to subscribe to, rate, and review The VinePair Podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your episodes, and send any questions, comments, critiques, or suggestions to [email protected]. Thanks for listening, and cheers!

Zach is drinking: Brandy Old Fashioned (Press) at Ishnala Supper Club

Joanna is drinking: Vale of Cashmere at FOLK Brooklyn

Hannah is drinking: Damien Guadagnolo Côtes du Jura Poulsard

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