What a powerful and open dialogue with my dear friend, Austin Kayser on what is often a very polarizing and difficult topic to explore - Veganism. We covered so much in this episode. Here are some of my favorite points:

• How Austin became introduced with veganism
• The number one thing that closes us off to new ideas
• How to figure out when and how gray areas can exist
• How perfection becomes the enemy of the good
• The ways we use a wrongdoing as an excuse not to uphold other moral obligations
• How to use binaries in supportive ways and where spectrums might be more helpful
• What veganism is versus our many misconceptions
• The most important shift in our thinking when it comes to right and wrong, knowing and not knowing
• How we use shame as a means to get people to follow our way
• The ways that collective burnout make us resistant to ethical and moral conversations and changes we may truly want and need to make
• How veganism connects Austin to his higher value system
• The number 1 reason Austin DIDN'T want to do the podcast
• Safety is not synonymous with comfort

More About Austin:

Austin is a training psychiatrist, kombucha lover and grateful Dad of a toothless pitbull who was convinced to go vegan after offering a heroic effort to resist the ethical arguments for animal rights.

Resources:

• 22 & Vegan

• Earthling Ed