It will come as no surprise I've known Jessica Meisner for 14 years when you listen to our episode. Such a powerful conversation - with a little silly bonus talk at the end - that we all need to reflect on.

Some of the key takeaways included:

• Where the narrative comes from that we need to be something for everyone
• The pendulum swing Jessica took after she burnt out on trying to be everything for everyone
• The interplay between feeling stuck in “being everything” but also striving to control everything
• The protective role of trying to control everything
• What leads us to be resentful of others and how sometimes it is not a “them” problem
• The lightbulb moment Jessica had in our conversation that is one of the truest realizations for all of us
• What not asking for what you need actually says about you
• Where that need to be needed comes from
• The difference between needing or choosing the people in your life
• The 1-liner my mother-in-law said that felt like I got drop-kicked in the gut
• The key questions I ask myself whenever I get stuck in those spaces of resentment and frustration
• The different types of boredom and why we need to be bored to thrive

More about Jes:

"I am so many things all at once. A mother, wife, boss, friend, sister, daughter. But also, just "me" and that one takes some work. "Me" I don't know all of yet. I have spent my adult life raising children and fixing problems for everyone. Currently, I am passionate about defining "me" to myself and no one else. I am making choices that are mine and maybe a little selfish, but could we redefine that word? Maybe selfish doesn't have to be so bad?"