
If you missed it, I have summarized some of the best content from the last 7 episodes of The Career Fox.
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Additionally, if you want to visit the episodes discussed in today's podcast, I have listed them below:
Aubrey & Nate, Managing Finances to change a career.
Donald Jones, Changing Careers without a degree.
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Check out the research used for this episode.
Jun 2, 2021
23 min

I pulled a report from Statista.com, a commercial statistics aggregation site, and estimated shows that 181 million people in the US consume at least one loaf of bread per week, with over 100 million consuming 2 or more.
What is crazy to me, is the average price of bread. TheDailyMeal.com listed that the average price of bread in 2020 rose to $2.07. So let’s do some math: If each American had a loaf of bread every week, which is not unrealistic given that many families consume 2 or more per week, 331.42 million Americans consume an estimated $35,672,000,000 per year in bread. That’s about $107 of bread per person, per year!
Now I may be doing my math wrong, but that seems to be a fairly reasonable and accurate estimate. I’d say about $100 per year of bread for myself is very reasonable, we tend to buy multigrain seeded bread which means it’s likely more.
With three million people now living in Utah, if my estimation holds, that means the market size is around $312,000,000 for bread.
Now that’s just an estimate! It’s not really meant to be authoritative so think of it as just having fun with statistics.
But, it does bring up an interesting point about the hidden size of the bread market. I looked it up just for fun, and the grocery market is over $6 trillion in size, which really does hold up in size to my estimate, just showing how massive this industry is.
Did you know, that some breadmakers manufacture their lousy bread for $.08 per loaf? That same loaf you are paying $2.00 in the store right now! If you don’t feel a little ashamed of your bread choices after hearing that, I would be right with you. It doesn’t seem like there are many trustworthy alternatives.
If that isn’t enough to put you over the edge, here’s the real kicker: some bread manufacturers use sawdust as their fiber. You know, ‘cellulose?’ It’s just regular ‘food-grade sawdust. Now you better start squirming in your chair because you’ve definitely had a loaf of wood-bread in your life.
It doesn’t even stop there, however; because those bread loaves which you eat in the store that last forever, and don’t expire, they’re treated with toxic chemicals that literally kill the living bacteria in your bread which forces it to stay ‘safe’.
Unfortunately, the one who really pays the price is you, the reader, who until this moment may have been totally unaware that the reason your bread goes bad is also the reason it’s so good for you.
Get all the details for this, and more in this week’s podcast episode with Rob Thomas, owner of Granny’s Delight Bread.
Questions from the Interview:
I did a little research on your website, and it states that you began working in the grocer distribution industry in 1984 doing sales, is that right?
When did you transition into baking and food manufacturing? Did the relationships you built while in sales make it easy to start distributing your own product?
What is your point of view on student debt?
Long-Form Question:
The current American student loan debt is in a crisis, with a total of $1.57 trillion of unpaid schooling debt as of 2020.
I recently listened to an address made by Mike Rowe to the House about the trades, and something he said was so powerful that I wanted to share it with you, and see what you thought about it.
“We continue to lend money we don’t have, to kids who can’t pay it back, to teach them jobs that no longer exist, while ignoring all kinds of careers that actually do.”
How do you feel about this?
Apr 13, 2021
39 min

Rachel Kerksiek is an EMS instructor in Utah who has overcome the odds to be one of the most renowned and respected members of Utah's public safety division. If you have ever wanted to join the medical services field, this is a fantastic way to get into it.
Trust us; you're gonna want to listen to this episode. If you're considering a full-time career as a Firefighter, Police Officer, or Paramedic, this episode is compelling.
What is EMS?
EMS stands for Emergency Medical Services and is often referred to as street medicine because most of the care provided is literally on the streets. As an instructor, Rachel teaches EMT, AEMT, Paramedic, and other emergency medical courses in universities and colleges for Utah residents.
Utah is an NREMT (National Registry of EMTs) state. This means your EMT certification from Utah is valid in 48 of the 50 US states and can use your certification to find EMT work.
Emergency Medical Services (EMS) is a worldwide occupation and public need.
EMTs are an in-demand job and a great entry-level position for medical careers and public service (many of which are a continuing education option, not requiring a bachelor's degree.
About the Interview
Of course, The following are a few questions asked during the interview:
The EMT field is growing at a fast and steady rate. Does the wage rate match your expectations?
Why do people stay in the EMT field?
What are some of the directions people can take starting as an EMT?
It looks like Paramedics can make up to $50,000, in some places more, maybe.
You were named 2017 instructor of the year in Utah, do you think that has fueled your success in this field?
How intense does it get working as an EMT?
Interested In EMS As A Career Now?
Great! Let us know how it goes, and send us a note to let us know we made an impact!
Apr 6, 2021
48 min

Consulting is a popular job category for the self-employed, and that's the case for this episode. We are joined today by Donald Jones representing his consulting business and services company.
Getting into consulting doesn't come on a whim because if you're a consultant without the know-how, you're in for a rude awakening. It takes a sharp and hard-working personality to succeed in this sector, especially for the self-employed.
It's a hard category to look at for this podcast because consulting is a custom (or boutique) career style. Of course, we have some statistics from the Bureau of Labor Statistics for the following relevant jobs:
Market Research Analyst
Management Analyst
Property Manager
For the analyst positions, I'd like to point out that even though Donald has been successful in this category, it's not easy, and it's likely not a place you'd find yourself without having years of experience and a degree; take a look at the BLS listings.
WHY do BLS statistics matter?
These are statistics that are forecasted with sample data based on studies performed by field economists, where they conduct personal visits, mail-in, calls, and email to collect data. They avoid paper or questionnaires to collect data and primarily focus on interpersonal communication to sample their datasets.
Of course, their data goes far beyond these overview statistics. I highly encourage anyone listing to actually visit the site for these jobs and look at the extensive summaries provided on these job listings. They have thousands of job listings, literally, and it’s very instructive.
Questions from the Interview:
Why did you leave your marketing management job at U-Haul?
Nobody walks into a consulting position without experience, and becoming a successful property manager is difficult; how did you get to your position today from the start of your career?
You made a transition from an employee to an owner at a certain point in your career; how long did it take before you came to that decision?
What is your sentiment towards college and higher education?
Want to get on the show?
Send us a note on our contact page!
Mar 30, 2021
39 min
![Bring it Back HVAC [With Zac Lamb]](https://cdn-images.podbay.fm/eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJ1cmwiOiJodHRwczovL2QzdDNvemZ0bWRtaDNpLmNsb3VkZnJvbnQubmV0L3Byb2R1Y3Rpb24vcG9kY2FzdF91cGxvYWRlZC8xMTg5OTgxMy8xMTg5OTgxMy0xNjE3MTQ2NTU0NzA1LWI0MmJjZGMwYWVjNDkuanBnIiwiZmFsbGJhY2siOiJodHRwczovL2lzMy1zc2wubXpzdGF0aWMuY29tL2ltYWdlL3RodW1iL1BvZGNhc3RzMTI0L3Y0L2IxLzE2LzJlL2IxMTYyZWYyLWVjODMtNzE5NS04MWNmLTVlNzRkOTNkZmQxMC9temFfOTMxODExNjI1NzEyNzg0ODM3LmpwZy82MDB4NjAwYmIuanBnIn0.9ouYEou8c_YEOvMSgr_RduKF60_zyhLd1N8VlwqcjCQ.jpg?width=200&height=200)
Zac Lamb is the owner of Bring it Back HVAC, an HVAC repair service based in Weber and Davis County, Utah.
HVAC is not a flashy career, but it still brings in the rewards for those willing to take on risks. Zac is no stranger to risk and reward, and he's willing to put in everything he's got to succeed.
Don't forget to take a look at the BLS HVAC Technician listing.
Here's a quick summary of this week's episode:
Zac started running a window washing business with his brother until he split off to work on his own as a contractor. After a few years of contracting with a company he's ready to start his own business and build his brand.
These things don't come without risks, however, and the trade-offs between working as an employee or contractor and owning your own business are very daunting for the unprepared. Zac discusses how he manages risk, and the role of negotiating in the market.
Mar 24, 2021
26 min

Today we visit with Shane Hickenlooper, co-owner of Scroll, a start-up digital marketing agency based in Layton, UT.
As part of a recent rebranding, joinscroll.com has expanded its business beyond SEO and Web Development to become a full digital-service agency.
The US Bureau of Labor Statistics:
Marketing Managers
Web Developer
Those are the statistics for these positions related to your business, but Shane's position is slightly different. He's built a business on skills he developed running side hustles, working sales jobs, and trusting in the skills and talents of the team he has built.
A major key to opening opportunities to work in marketing without college requires a lot of self-education. Shane describes this as sweat-equity.
Questions asked in the podcast:
When did you decide to drop college entirely and focus on what was working for you?
Did you look at the risks of leaving a job to start a business?
Have you ever heard of intrapreneurship?
What's your opinion about "Marketing Gurus?"
Who do you look to for marketing and business advice?
What kind of skills do people need to enter this business space? Or get a job with you?
Do you have an amazing career tip? Send me a 20-30 second voice clip with your best tip here!
Mar 16, 2021
33 min

Evan is joined today by Aubree and Nate, a couple who overcame massive odds to pay off their personal and consumer debts by changing their mindset and moving out of their home.
Do you want to share your thoughts on the show? Email us at [email protected]!
Mar 10, 2021
18 min

Evan joins with Kenton, an IT professional who worked his way up the chain without a college education.
The podcast series, The Career Fox Podcast, is about highlighting true stories of people and their journey finding a career, building the lifelong skills they need to be successful, and sharing the hard lessons they learned on the way. Many people believe that college isn’t necessary to make a living, our purpose is to show them how.
This podcast builds on reality, hard work, and individual journeys. Our goal is to tell a story that uplifts you, the listener. We hope you take what you learn today on your journey through your career and find better opportunities because of it.
Mar 5, 2021
24 min
