] Malcolm Collins: Hello, Simone. I’m excited to be here with you today. Today we’re gonna be talking about a diabolical situation that the internet has been shockingly, like the, the nerd right internet, which is where this situation is relevant, has been getting mostly right, which, it makes me feel good to be part of this wider political movement.[00:00:17] Okay. Which is Asmongold has a girlfriend, okay?[00:00:21] Simone Collins: Is it official?[00:00:23] Malcolm Collins: Yeah, it’s, it’s official. It, it, it’s at least official that she’s given him a list of demands or ultimatum. And her name is Kai’Sa, and[00:00:30] I’ll put up a picture of her here. Very cute. Simone thinks she looks like a, one of those robot Chinese girls, right?[00:00:37] Like the robot sex dolls. In[00:00:38] Simone Collins: a good way. In a good way.[00:00:40] Malcolm Collins: She looksLike maximally designed.[00:00:42] Speaker: UBTech has taken a major step toward bringing humanoid robots into everyday life with the introduction of the new You World U1 series. Revealed during the company’s twenty twenty-six global launch event in Shenzhen, China, the new robot is being presented as the world’s first full-size ultra bionic humanoid robot built for mass production.[00:01:04] It represents a shift from robots that mainly work in factories to machines that can interact naturally with people in homes, schools, healthcare, and many other environments.[00:01:16] Malcolm Collins: Yes. And people online have been like, “White guys tanking ugly Asian girl.” I’m like, if you think this is an ugly Asian girl like I, I don’t know. Like Asians have- Wait, you’re calling[00:01:24] Simone Collins: her ugly? ... nose- That’s like people saying Ar- Margot Robbie was mid.[00:01:29] Malcolm Collins: Yeah, no, it, it doesn’t make you look hotter. It makes you look f*****g insane and insecure, Okay ... ‘cause she’s very attractive.[00:01:35] Simone Collins: Yeah. But anyways- She looks like a, like a human doll. It’s, it’s, it’s kind of scary. I for me, she crosses the uncanny valley. She’s very beautiful, but in a way of like, like are you...[00:01:45] Is, is it-[00:01:46] Malcolm Collins: She, she gave him a list of ultimatums of things he needs to change about himself. And[00:01:50] Simone Collins: this is confirmed? Like did she publish it or like how did it[00:01:53] Malcolm Collins: come out? He’s talked about it publicly and it’s, it’s-[00:01:55] Simone Collins: Oh, I need to see. Okay ... she[00:01:56] Malcolm Collins: hasn’t disconfirmed it. But she puts out this list, and, you know, the, the movement being what it is, a lot of the movement is downstream of, like, the red pill diaspora and stuff like that. Hmm. You would think that the majority of the people within the movement would be like, “Oh, well, you know, she’s domesticating him,” as some people have said or something like that.[00:02:14] Like, but i- if you run a sentiment analysis on this the m- majority, it appears a pretty large majority of fans, of people aware of the Asmongold-iverse, other than Hasan, who has just been crashing out in anger over the fact that Asmongold has a girlfriend, that it’s clear that Hasan is jealous of. Hasan has a secret girlfriend.[00:02:32] Simone Collins: What? But she’s hotter?[00:02:34] Malcolm Collins: Yeah, she’s hotter. Asmongold’s[00:02:35] Simone Collins: girlfriend is[00:02:35] Malcolm Collins: hotter. And he can’t handle it. Oh. Oh. And Hasan’s girlfriend isn’t gonna reproduce with him. She’s already made it clear she doesn’t want kids. Asmongold really wants kids, and so, you know, Asmongold will be with his- I[00:02:43] Simone Collins: know. Mm. I’m so happy[00:02:44] hottie, have lots of kids I hope this, like, turns into the family he’s wanted. Now’s the time.[00:02:49] Malcolm Collins: Yeah, they’ll be b- b- b- the little, little roach kings. But most of the people on our side have actually been like, “No, we entirely support her giving a list of demands or an ultimatum.” And we’ll go through them, and I’m also of this position.[00:03:04] And I, I, I th- I think it’s useful to go through the demands that she’s making of him so we can talk through, for our fans, so you can better understand what is a good partner, what is a bad partner, and what are the ways that a good partner would engage you.[00:03:21] Simone Collins: Okay ...[00:03:22] Malcolm Collins: now, this isn’t to say that any ultimatum list that somebody gave you is a positive sign, but there are specific ultimatums that I’m...[00:03:31] I’m gonna go further here. I’m not gonna say th- this list of ultimatums isn’t something where I’m like, “Look, you shouldn’t hold that against her.” It’s, “This is a sign that she is an explicitly better girlfriend or wife material than a woman who didn’t give you this list of demands.”[00:03:49] Simone Collins: Hmm. Like, he’ll be better off if he complies with these demands?[00:03:53] Malcolm Collins: Well, we’ll go through them. Okay, so- Yeah ... demand number one.[00:03:55] Simone Collins: Okay.[00:03:55] Malcolm Collins: To clean up his room which she called, [00:04:00] quote-unquote, contaminated. And no-[00:04:02] Simone Collins: Malcolm, it’s his brand Why would you-[00:04:07] Malcolm Collins: She found a, a cockroach head in the fridge, and she found in his toilet one morning, this is a, a, the stream that went viral,[00:04:15] Simone Collins: Like poo smudged on the- I saw the clip.[00:04:16] Oh, the clip of the... That was really sweet actually, ‘cause she’s like, “That’s a cockroach head.” And he’s like- Mm ... no. No. Yeah. Wait, how did you know that?”[00:04:24] Speaker 2: Where is it? Wait, your fridge- Okay ... looks very clean. Yeah, it is. Of course it’s clean. No, nevermind. It’s- No, it’s not. Wait- Is that a cockroach head? That’s a f*****g cockroach head. Yeah, actually it is. Why is it just the head? How did you know that? How did you know that? ‘Cause there’s a little th- thing on the head.[00:04:42] The pointy... Yeah, no, you’re right. They actually... Oh my God. Why did you put it in the fridge? It’s like- I don’t know how it happened. I mean, it could’ve been five years ago. He’s probably been there for years. You gotta-[00:04:52] Simone Collins: He was, like, impressed that she was able to identify a dismembered cockroach head, which is really sweet. I guess he was like, “You understand cockroach a- anatomy.”[00:05:02] Malcolm Collins: So first of all, I, I wanna be clear. I don’t think there’s anybody who watches Asmongold because he’s dirty. The, the, the portion of his audience, the people watch him because he’s down to earth.[00:05:13] Simone Collins: Yeah.[00:05:14] Malcolm Collins: His, his level of dirtiness, just so people understand, there was a case where a few streamers went to his house to, like, do an Asmongold whatever thing at his house.[00:05:24] Simone Collins: Mm-hmm.[00:05:24] Malcolm Collins: And they apparently were, like, bedridden for, like, a week afterwards. They became so sick. Oh,[00:05:30] Simone Collins: gosh ...[00:05:30] Malcolm Collins: I’ve, I have gone to places with, like, black mold and stuff like this and experienced- Yeah ... this before. Yeah. Like, it is likely that he just over time built up an immunity to whatever is in his house.[00:05:41] Simone Collins: No,[00:05:41] Malcolm Collins: definitely. But it is almost certainly sapping years from his life. The fact that it rotted out all his teeth on his face, the fact that he mentioned that eating a burrito after he had his teeth replaced, he was really excited because he realized that burritos didn’t taste bad, it was just the rot from his teeth was seeping into the flavor.[00:06:02] I[00:06:03] Simone Collins: know. It’s so horrible.[00:06:03] Malcolm Collins: This is not good. A, a woman, when you’re at this level, who’s like, “Hey, like, let’s- Okay ... look into,” like... And, and keep in mind, when she says clean up, I think she means, like, at a base level. She’s not necessarily saying he has to keep it pristine. He just has to pay for a cleaner.[00:06:24] And Asmongold has basically infinite money. When I say he has infinite money, when he went on Caleb Hammer, Caleb Hammer had to tell him Bro, you need to be setting aside around $4 million a year to spend. It is, it is not financially sound to be spending as little money as you’re spending when you have this amount of money.[00:06:46] He can hire a cleaner, and she has shown herself to be very flexible with this demand because what he has considered as an alternative to it is just buying a second house that she would live at.[00:06:58] Simone Collins: Yeah, which seems more reasonable to me, ‘cause then it’s just her house and she can control it. I don’t go in your room, and I don’t tell you what to do with[00:07:05] Malcolm Collins: your room.[00:07:06] Yeah, so let’s, let’s talk about how we do this in our family, right? So my room-[00:07:10] Simone Collins: God, no ...[00:07:11] Malcolm Collins: is an absolute mess, okay?[00:07:13] Simone Collins: And[00:07:14] Malcolm Collins: my[00:07:14] Simone Collins: room- And you know why?[00:07:14] Malcolm Collins: Do you know why? ...[00:07:15] Simone Collins: is not, okay?[00:07:18] Malcolm Collins: And, and this is because we came up with a compromise that works for both of us, which is-[00:07:23] Simone Collins: Yes ...[00:07:23] Malcolm Collins: my spaces are allowed to be as messy as I want them to be, and I have one space, my room, okay?[00:07:30] Everywhere else in the house, we have to at least attempt to keep as clean as possible. There is an expectation of cleanliness. I am not... I, I, I assume that what she probably means to her mansplain gold is, like, my level of dirtiness. Like, so what Asmikle does is every time his pillows get too dirty, he’s like, “I just get a new pillowcase and put it over the old one.”[00:07:49] Every time his sheets. I change... Like, I have my pillowcases washed and my bed washed maybe three times a year, four times a year. So not that frequently. I mean, I, I think I’m a pretty messy guy. I s-[00:07:59] Simone Collins: You [00:08:00] get really pissed at me whenever I do it, and- Act like I’ve hurt your room This like all this resentment.[00:08:11] Malcolm Collins: It’s not my style, okay? Personal style. But I, well, the reason of, the reason it’s important for us to say this is this is not me as somebody who doesn’t get Asmongold, okay? Mm. I am a dirty guy, okay? My wife didn’t want to live that life. Most women don’t want to live that life. Mm-mm. And frankly, if I stayed living as dirty as I lived historically, it would not be healthy or safe for me.[00:08:36] Now, I was-[00:08:37] Simone Collins: Pause. Are you actually speaking into your mic? ‘Cause it sounds like either your mic is not on or-[00:08:42] Malcolm Collins: Hello, hello, hello?[00:08:43] Simone Collins: Right. You need to actually bring your mic up to you, and if you need the better mic stand, let’s get it for you. ‘Cause you keep leaning back from the mic and it’s affecting the sound quality.[00:08:50] Malcolm Collins: But yeah. I- I’m not, I’m not coming out here as somebody who’s like oh god, you should make the...” I’m not like Jordan Peterson or whatever, right? Like, “Make your bed every day.” Make your bed. “Clean up.”[00:08:59] Simone Collins: Oh,[00:08:59] Malcolm Collins: god. I’m like, “Bro, you’re a guy,” okay? I get it, okay? You get it, I get it. You know. I might be a little more squidgy about like insects and mice and stuff than Asmongold is, but like I- That’s[00:09:10] Simone Collins: true.[00:09:10] I’m always the one who handles the mice and the insects and the, the, the poop and the vomit and the...[00:09:18] Malcolm Collins: Yeah, I, I don’t, I don’t like that stuff so much. There’s nobody... I appreciate it, Simone. You’re very good about handling that stuff. But the point here being is it’s not that we don’t get where he’s coming from.[00:09:28] Yeah. But when you have, as Asmongold had at one point in his life, a, this, this famous rat alarm. Which was- Yes. ... a dead rat and the sun cucking it as it went through the windows is what woke him up in the morning to start streaming. That is clear... And I love that he couldn’t... Like, they’re like, “Well, what happened to it?”[00:09:48] And he’s like, “Well, it eventually disintegrated.” There was a spot on his carpet that he’s like, “That’s where the dead rat used to be,” and it’s like a spot. It looks like a Hiroshima spot or something, right? Like, like, flash frozen into the carpet that he just left it there for so long. That is clearly a health and safety risk.[00:10:05] Yeah. Like, you could... Like, it, he’s not experiencing the nega- negative ramifications, and it’s like, yes he is. Oh, yeah, he is. It’s just rotting out of its face.[00:10:12] Simone Collins: Yeah, yeah. We, we don’t know what else may have happened to him as well, so.[00:10:16] Malcolm Collins: No, but the point here being is if you marry somebody or you’re dating somebody and they are okay with you continuing to do something that is clearly and demonstrably not in your best interest.[00:10:28] Simone Collins: Yeah, then they don’t really love you. Yeah. They, they, they should, they want you to be healthy and to not die. So that, okay, that, that one is, you’re right, reasonable within limits. Obviously if Asmongold showed up on his stream with cut hair and a suit on, you know, like Hasan in his little suits. And like went[00:10:50] Malcolm Collins: in his little suit.[00:10:50] Simone, dead insects in the fridge is definitely a hygiene line For most people.[00:10:58] Simone Collins: Yeah.[00:10:59] Malcolm Collins: Okay, next. I love that you’re the one defending the messiness here, because you have defended and tolerated my messiness.[00:11:03] Simone Collins: I’m... Look, I, yeah, I I let you do your thing. There’s als- the, the, the things that have at times grown in your room.[00:11:11] Yes. Let’s, you know.[00:11:13] Malcolm Collins: So she said that he has to take a shower every other day[00:11:19] Simone Collins: It’s reasonable. Yeah[00:11:21] Malcolm Collins: Now, keep in mind, this is a person who is likely having sex with you. Your body is entering their body. They have-[00:11:28] Simone Collins: Yeah, and so that, that is really necessary, yeah ...[00:11:31] Malcolm Collins: a right to police, and, and you don’t have to deal with the negative consequences of that as a guy as much as women do.[00:11:37] Simone Collins: Totally. Yeah.[00:11:39] Malcolm Collins: UTIs are incredibly painful from what I’ve seen. Yeah Like, they’re not at all fun, and almost certainly Asmogold would give, I, I’m just being honest here, anyone he sleeps with UTIs. Now she’s noted i- in terms of how dirty he is, that he doesn’t smell bad. Which I believe. I don’t think she has any reason to lie about this.[00:11:56] Yeah. But I mean, just in terms of, like, pure, And [00:12:00] also keep in mind he lives in Texas, so keep in mind how hot it is there and how much he probably sweats. Yeah, he lives[00:12:03] Simone Collins: in Texas, and from everything he talks about, he seems to take a walk outside almost daily. So if you’re taking a walk outside in Texas during most of the year, you’re not gonna smell great.[00:12:14] Malcolm Collins: Yeah. Well, I mean, apparently it, it doesn’t affect him as much, but I, I don’t know. That could be genetics. That could be something else he’s doing as part of his routine. But-[00:12:20] Simone Collins: Diet, yeah ...[00:12:21] Malcolm Collins: every, an every other day shower is honestly pretty f*****g lenient, okay- Yeah ... for a girlfriend.[00:12:26] Simone Collins: It’s very. It’s very, yeah.[00:12:28] Malcolm Collins: And also, I will say something else. This is a demand from somebody who plans on having sex with you.[00:12:33] Simone Collins: Yeah.[00:12:34] Malcolm Collins: Okay?[00:12:34] Simone Collins: Again, yeah. That’s v- very reasonable. It’s, it’s just a, “Look, I don’t wanna, I don’t wanna have to go buy a round of antibiotics just to[00:12:42] Malcolm Collins: be intimate with you.” Well, and I also think that it sort of, would be a sign if she didn’t have these minimum demands that she planned on using him.[00:12:49] Simone Collins: True. Yeah ... because- Very good point. Yeah ...[00:12:52] Malcolm Collins: because it, it signals if it was like, “I’m just gonna tank his negative habits for, like, six months or whatever use him to boost my own fame,” I, I mean, she’s almost certainly not using him for money, because she’s astonishingly rich apparently.[00:13:05] Simone Collins: Nice. Oh[00:13:06] Malcolm Collins: So keep in mind, she’s not just super hot.[00:13:07] She’s also super wealthy.[00:13:09] Simone Collins: Like your mom said, married heiress. So how did she... Is she wealthy from streaming, or is she wealthy from something else?[00:13:14] Malcolm Collins: OnlyFans.[00:13:16] Simone Collins: Oh.[00:13:18] Malcolm Collins: Okay ... no, apparently her family is also super rich. So it’s, it’s not just from OnlyFans. But if your OnlyFans famous, a- and, and keep in mind, she’s got a quarter million subscribers on Twitch, right?[00:13:29] Like, she’s a fairly popular streamer with a popular OnlyFans account. And given that, like, TechTone has been like, “No, I’ve looked at her finances. She’s super rich,” these are other famous online streamers. She is certainly pulling in a type of wealth that is above what you would expect from streamers.[00:13:46] I might not be surprised if she’s pulling in as much as Asmogold. Because even if you’re, like, a quarter-[00:13:50] Simone Collins: Oh, right, because she’s a hot woman who can sell stuff on OF. Okay, right. Yep.[00:13:54] Malcolm Collins: Yeah. Pictures of her body can... OF can make an astonishing amount. The, the, the couple that I would consider pretty obscure OF creators who had Peanut the squirrel, I remember learning that they were making 80,000 a month, and I was like Wait, what?[00:14:09] Like, I’ve never even heard of... That’s what you can make of as a OnlyFans group that I’ve never even heard of? Yeah, out[00:14:14] Simone Collins: of nowhere. Yeah. Wait, so but how is it not, how is the platform not dead now with AI? I just don’t get it. I don’t know. Like, do you have to know that they’re a real person? Do people need that to get off?[00:14:24] ‘Cause that, I mean, it’s an active turn-off for me. I find it to be a major turn-off. I think for most people.[00:14:29] Malcolm Collins: I find the whole thing gross. But especially with AI now- Yeah, like knowing that they’re a real person, like,[00:14:33] Simone Collins: ruins it ... I[00:14:33] Malcolm Collins: can make AI video of pretty much anything I want on rfab.ai.[00:14:37] Simone Collins: Yeah.[00:14:38] Malcolm Collins: And you know, it can be very tailored to my particular interests.[00:14:42] Simone Collins: Yeah.[00:14:42] And you can even accompany with it, or accompany it with a companion that texts you and calls you and talks with you without charging you OF rates. I just, I, I don’t- No, I[00:14:53] Malcolm Collins: finally got the, the calling companion working. I, I haven’t tested it in production, but it’s, it’s working on- Yeah.[00:14:57] Simone Collins: And now you’re gonna add text?[00:14:59] Malcolm Collins: Yeah. I mean, the agents have always been able to call, but now I’m getting, making it so your regular companions can call and text.[00:15:04] Simone Collins: Mm-hmm.[00:15:05] Malcolm Collins: So that’ll be, that’ll be fun. And they work on devices now, so you can walk around and use them. Did you get a chance to test that today with Octavian?[00:15:10] Simone Collins: No, I’m sorry. I, I’m gonna get there tomorrow.[00:15:13] Malcolm Collins: Okay. Cross me. I, I really, I really appreciate it. ‘Cause you know, more testing, better. Yes. I really wanna get to a point where I can have that be his tutor and we, we have a, a, an alternative to Parrhisia, and I can begin to build up that educational pipeline. I’m so excited for that. But I need to get that whole companion system working first.[00:15:26] Simone Collins: You’re right. I’m the bottleneck. I will fix it. Anyway, what else is on her list of demands?[00:15:30] Malcolm Collins: Okay, next. Next. She has to get a shorter haircut, but not too short. Now she explicitly said like he had during a previous part of his internet fame cycle. Oh,[00:15:42] Simone Collins: okay.[00:15:43] So she’s- Yeah, so like, out of your hairstyles, I prefer this one.[00:15:46] That’s fine.[00:15:47] Malcolm Collins: That’s a completely... Yeah, she’s not saying like, “Get a hairstyle that’s completely out of character for you.” She’s saying, “Of the hairstyles that have been a part of your brand, this is my favorite.” Which also is good because it kind of shows that she’s [00:16:00] been a longterm fan of his. Yeah. That’s sweet.[00:16:01] And thought that he was hot or someone she wanted to date or something like that for a long time. So a- again, I see that as a fairly positive sign- Yeah ... that somebody’s like, “Get a haircut from this era of Malcolm and Dom or whatever.” I- I’d be like, “Oh, okay, okay. So you’re- you’re aware.” Now there’s been some other ones that have been circulated but they’re not as confirmed.[00:16:23] Hm. So let’s see if I can find those.[00:16:28] Specifically eating a more balanced diet and cutting down on sugar and candy[00:16:34] Simone Collins: That’s gonna be tough for him.[00:16:36] Malcolm Collins: I mean- That’s- ... those are just clearly positive things for your life as well[00:16:40] Simone Collins: It’s true. It’s true. Yeah. It, it- I, yeah, I think what, what you lose in your free candy access as a man or a woman is more than made up for by the companionship of a partner who cares about you thriving, so d- why am I even complaining?[00:16:55] Yeah.[00:16:56] Malcolm Collins: Yeah.[00:16:57] Simone Collins: I think that’s awesome.[00:16:59] Malcolm Collins: But I think what’s important from this from fans is, as Leaflet says, groom your girlfriend, groom your wife- Yeah ... groom your husband.[00:17:09] Simone Collins: Yeah, yeah.[00:17:09] Malcolm Collins: And her entire song in regards to that is basically about being groomed into a better person, and she starts at the beginning of that song in a very Asmogold-like situation.[00:17:22] She’s online all the lights are out, her room’s a mess. She’s, she’s slovenly. She’s, like, eating junk food while playing an MMORPG.[00:17:29][00:18:10] Malcolm Collins: Like, literally- ... like, it’s, it’s, it’s almost that song is, like, the situation with Asmogold, the song. Then she gets out. She starts exercising more, waking up more, working harder and improves herself, right?[00:18:21] And, and, and presumably, this is what you’re trying to groom your wife into, what you’re trying to groom your husband into. I think it’s intuitively understood within our community that that’s the purpose of a wife or a partner, that the worst thing anyone could ever tell you, the most hateful and unloving thing that anyone could ever tell you is, “I love you the way you are,” right?[00:18:41] Because that’s saying, “I just want to u- like, you fill an amorphous hole in my life that you will always fill, and I have no desire for you to improve,” right? You are my stuffed animal, right? You, you are not a human being who I am collaborating with to help improve and help bring out the best iteration of yourself.[00:19:01] Simone Collins: Yeah. And I think, I mean, ultimately the demands that implicitly I made of you were way less reasonable, and certainly not things that Asmongold would agree to, no matter how much money I had. So[00:19:15] Malcolm Collins: in[00:19:15] Simone Collins: the end-[00:19:16] Malcolm Collins: Well, what, what are the demands that you would make of[00:19:18] Simone Collins: me? Well, the, the things that we agreed to when getting married was that, yes, we would have kids, but also, yes, you would be on the front lines of that.[00:19:24] Asmongold wants a wife who stays at home, doesn’t work, and raises the kids, which was not something ... That was, like, my, my deal breaker for having kids, right? Like- Yeah ... I will have infinite kids as long as I never have to stop working. So that would’ve been a deal breaker immediately. What else is in our marriage contract that[00:19:45] Th- I think most of the other things are pretty reasonable, actually. You know, even all the way down to, like, permissible inside temperatures and stuff.[00:19:55] Malcolm Collins: It’s, it,[00:19:56] Simone Collins: yeah. We were okay with that. I mean, th- th- it’s more than wicca. Maybe Asmongold wouldn’t have agreed to the no [00:20:00] boats clause, which I’m still glad we agreed to.[00:20:02] I, I go further to[00:20:02] Malcolm Collins: say that this list[00:20:03] Simone Collins: of demands-[00:20:03] Malcolm Collins: well, I mean, yours demands for me were more like holistic demands for like everything I needed to do with my entire life if we were gonna live together forever.[00:20:12] Simone Collins: Mm.[00:20:12] Malcolm Collins: Which I also think is reasonable. Like, the idea that your partner having expectations of you is a negative thing is frankly like a super cucked perspective.[00:20:22] Like, you- Yeah.[00:20:23] Simone Collins: Oh, absolutely ...[00:20:25] Malcolm Collins: you’re not gonna get a good partner, and the very best thing you might get is like a pseudo-slave, which I’m gonna be honest, I do not think strong men want. I, we were talking about this on the Leaflet stream when I was talking about like my ideal woman. And my ideal woman as, as a guy who is otherwise you know, very sort of dominant in terms of my arousal patterns, I want a woman who is very tomboy and dominant as well, just submissive to me specifically.[00:20:49] Speaker 5: I think we should see this today. What? Why would you wanna do that? Come on, Jun, grow up. We’re not in grade school anymore. You can’t get all panicked just ‘cause there might be some kissing. And when did you become the adult store type grownup? Staring at this thing for a whole week finally paid off.[00:21:11] Speaker 8: When they start kissing, put your hand on top of his and hold on tight. Trust me, the effect it’ll have will be immediate. Keep it[00:21:18] Speaker 7: between us.[00:21:18] Speaker 5: Awesome.[00:21:19] She’s so close. Hurry up and make out already. Wait, what?[00:21:24] Speaker 7: We can’t, at least not here.[00:21:27] Speaker 6: Misuzu’s a[00:21:29] Speaker 5: freak. Did she go see this perv movie by herself? This is so much more than just kissing. I can’t put my hand on his right now. If I do that, he’s gonna think this is what I’m after. Oh my God, he’s obsessed with it, though.[00:21:42] Malcolm Collins: And we were talking about it, and what I realized is, is l- Leaflets i- also into like tomboys and stuff like that, so a lot of other people in the comments are, were into tomboys. And a lot of people were like, “Yes, like that is what I am into too.” Like really tough women who are subordinate to me, but not mindless, not, you know...[00:22:03] A- and we pointed out, like this is traditionally what an American woman was, right? Like- Yeah ... i, i- at least if you look at our wider cultural group this is the, the, the backwards group that we talk about a lot women were supposed to be tough and they were supposed to speak their mind. And they were supposed to have opinions on things like this.[00:22:21] And, and that doesn’t mean disrespectful, right? Like, there are other cultures where women are tough in a disrespectful way. Mm. I, I’m gonna be honest here, I think in American Black culture women are, are, are fairly disrespectful to their partners in a way that I simply would never tolerate from a woman.[00:22:38] I think in Latin American culture women are tough and, and single-minded, but also pretty disrespectful. There is a difference between the... A- and, and neither of those cultures really have the tomboy archetype as much either. Within Black cultures they do have the sort of masculine woman, but it’s not the tomboy archetype.[00:22:54] It’s a different sort of a masculine woman. And within Lat- Latin American culture I just don’t find that, that whole thing I don’t find attractive. The sort of prissy whatever that, that, that you, that you see more often in that culture. But what, what I’m pointing out here is it is historic to American culture.[00:23:11] The people who wanna tell you, “Oh, no, you wanna go back to a trad woman. You wanna go back to a woman who, who is, j- just doesn’t think for herself and always does whatever,” and it’s like that was not... A- at least if you’re talking about the Puritan cultural group or the Backwoods cultural group, that is not what they looked for in a wife at all.[00:23:26] Nor would a wife who acted that way been thought of as desirable or enviable by other people in the colonial communities.[00:23:34] Simone Collins: Well, they wouldn’t have survived otherwise. You had to be tough to survive in at least most of these cultures, and I, I think people also forget that. I was wondering last night to myself Did, did very common people like Shakespeare so much at the time?[00:23:48] Because also, if you were super dumb, you just didn’t make it to adulthood. Like, maybe on average people were more articulate and smart seeming because just anyone who wasn’t wouldn’t make it, because you [00:24:00] had to be fairly smart to just not die regularly.[00:24:05] Malcolm Collins: Well, I, I wouldn’t say this is true. It was pretty harsh in the southern, in the cavalier culture and, and they typically chose prissy, like effeminate women who were always obedient.[00:24:16] That’s true.[00:24:16] Simone Collins: Hmm[00:24:19] Malcolm Collins: So this, this is more of a Puritan backwoods thing.[00:24:22] Simone Collins: They seem to be pretty-[00:24:22] Malcolm Collins: Also Quaker, Quaker women were pretty effeminate I[00:24:23] Simone Collins: think they were performatively prissy, but it’s different from being actually prissy.[00:24:28] Malcolm Collins: Right. But, but it, it was still the cultural aspiration. Quaker women were also pretty effeminate.[00:24:33] Mm.[00:24:33] Simone Collins: Yeah, fair point ...[00:24:34] Malcolm Collins: compared to, to other groups. So like, it’s, it’s not that no historic group in the United States, but not the ones that I consider really true to American culture- Mm ... th- they’re, they didn’t look for this as much. So what I’m saying is, is we were talking about, like, the idea of tomboys, and I was like, you want a, like, tough, “I can defend the land, I can defend the property.[00:24:54] I am going to work with you to improve each other, even if I’m taking on the technically submissive role within the relationship.” I, I think, especially from the response that we got on Leaflet Chat, that that might be a l- like what the majority of, like, Americans from the Far West tradition and the backwoods tradition and the Puritan tradition, and so most of the major traditions in American history prefer.[00:25:14] Mm. The, the, the preferred type of girl is the tomboy. And so, a- and she’s not even that tomboy, right? The, the girl who Guys Migold is dating right now.[00:25:23] Simone Collins: Not remotely ...[00:25:25] Malcolm Collins: yeah, not remotely, but, but she at least has a spine. I think it is very unattractive when women don’t have spines. And I think that this is a[00:25:32] I think that there’s some cultures in other places where women without spines are admirable. You know, just do whatever your husband says. But I think that that is not, that wouldn’t be true to American cultural history to, to say that you, you prefer that in a woman, or that’s what femininity is to you.[00:25:48] Mm-hmm. So you’d even say that she’s acting in a way that is really positive, right? Like, that is a, an, an attractive thing to put your foot down about. And, and her boundaries are also super clear. It’s not like, “I’m gonna do something bad,” or, “I will sabotage you,” or, “I will complain.” It’s like, “I just won’t date you if you’re not gonna do this stuff.”[00:26:10] Which is an entirely reasonable set of demands.[00:26:12] Simone Collins: Yeah. Very, very, very, very reasonable.[00:26:14] Malcolm Collins: It’s, i- if her demands were something like, “Stop being so edgy online,” I’d be like, “Okay, that’s a, a big warning sign.”[00:26:21] Simone Collins: Yeah.[00:26:21] Malcolm Collins: But that’s not what her demands is. Her demands are in a line with what any reasonable person trying to judge what Asmongold’s real goal is in life would judge was being in alignment with his own goals for himself.[00:26:33] Simone Collins: So you wanted to run this episode basically because you want people to understand that setting reasonable goals for people because you care about them and want them to thrive is not a s**t test. It is not someone trying to assert their power and dominance over you. There is a difference between someone doing that, because that does happen-[00:26:50] Malcolm Collins: Yeah[00:26:51] Simone Collins: in and outside of romantic relationships, and then there’s the other thing where people understand you, know you, know your history, are invested in you, and want to see you succeed and become who we- they know you want to be, asking you to hold yourself basically to those values. And someone who does s**t tests is toxic.[00:27:13] Someone who does everything they can to help you become who you want to be is invaluable. And you’re probably right that there’s a pretty significant number of men who would suspect that someone suggesting life changes, like any- Is s**t testing ... form of improvement. Yeah. Yeah. They’d be like, “No.” Like, they have to just reflexively say, “Absolutely not” because they believe that you, you know, give a woman an inch and she takes a mile.[00:27:44] And I think there’s also some middle ground with this of, like, people who, you know, want the best for you theoretically, but don’t understand who you want to be. Mm-hmm. Which I don’t think is the case here. Like your mom, right? Like, all of her advice would be great if you [00:28:00] wanted for yourself what she wanted for you, but you didn’t.[00:28:04] And I think that that’s, that’s another... It’s not a s**t test, and it is someone, I guess, trying to help you, but that help would make you miserable and/or not, you know, useful in your own- Yeah ... value set.[00:28:20] Malcolm Collins: Yeah, no, I, I, I completely agree with the second thing. The, the, that it’s possible that she... But this, this isn’t, he doesn’t need to be dirty.[00:28:27] That’s not the key to his accuracy. Yeah,[00:28:29] Simone Collins: that’s true. Well, yeah, I don’t know. I, I think that him being him is part of that. Like, if he suddenly became finicky. But yeah, you’re right. She’s not per, so far as we understand, asking him to be- And[00:28:40] Malcolm Collins: she’s doing a pretty good job in her role. You know, if she’s becoming queen of the nerds or something like that, of the, of the nerd right, marrying into the position of the highest royalty of the nerd right, when people are attacking her calling her, like, a Nazi and stuff, she’s replying with things like, “What’s a Nazi?”[00:28:55] And then, like, “It sure got you mad.” You know, like trolling, right? You know, that’s, that’s what we wanna see from our queen. If she’s marrying into the royal family- ... we want to see our queen trolling people. Yeah. And[00:29:07] Simone Collins: she[00:29:07] Malcolm Collins: did[00:29:07] Simone Collins: a- That is delightful ...[00:29:08] Malcolm Collins: a post, “$2 steak time,” with him that got a bunch of[00:29:11] Simone Collins: people saying- Which people say is really good, so.[00:29:14] Malcolm Collins: Yeah, they say it’s a solid steak. Sure. No, I would upgrade for him. If she’s gonna marry him and be going to be living their lifestyle together, I would start cooking for him and make better food, hopefully. Like, my wife makes me excellent food. Tonight I’m gonna have some wonderful, Mm. Oh, what is it?[00:29:28] Simone Collins: Fried rice.[00:29:29] Malcolm Collins: Fried rice. God, you make great fried rice. Fried rice with Mongolian beef. It’s really good. The Juliandered Mongolian beef and fried rice. Juliandered? Juli- it’s[00:29:41] Juliandered. What- whatever, Simone. I know[00:29:42] Simone Collins: my word. Julian. Yeah, it’s, yeah. Well, you have such specific tastes too, and that Mongolian beef takes such a long time to velvet and then marinate and then cook and then, then only to chop it up into fine It adds so much[00:29:59] Malcolm Collins: flavor ...[00:30:00] Simone Collins: yeah, I just, I don’t know, like, do we need...[00:30:03] I mean, the velveting is necessary. Probably the marinating is necessary, but I don’t know if the same s- smoky wok searing is necessary. Okay,[00:30:13] Malcolm Collins: maybe, maybe it’s not. Why don’t you try it without it?[00:30:16] Simone Collins: Well, now that we have that, I’ll try it with that fan. Yeah, it’s just... So for context, we don’t, we l- we, we cook in the basement of a l- late 1700s farmhouse.[00:30:26] There is no hood for ventilation. So when I prepare Mongolian beef for Malcolm or do anything in the wok that like, you know, produces some smoke it, it gets to be such that, like, I can’t see through my glasses ‘cause they’re so covered in soot and, like, smoke and, like-[00:30:44] Malcolm Collins: You’re such a diligent woman-[00:30:45] particles of oil ... living on, living over the fire.[00:30:47] Simone Collins: It’s, it’s just... I know we tried to find, like, something that could be a hood, and it’s just not gonna happen for this kitchen. And if I can get that to work, I probably won’t be so resentful of the wok process. Advice is welcome in the comments. Help me, please.[00:31:04] Please. We got the thing, I haven’t tried it yet, that sucks up smoke and you plug it in. Looks like a little, a little Android that’s, like, looking down in a judgmental fashion. Is that what our fan[00:31:16] Malcolm Collins: is like, or is this, like, an expensive thing we don’t[00:31:17] Simone Collins: have? The fan. The fan. It has, like, a head, and it, like, looks down at your wok and, like, sucks in the, the oil that is now being vaporized into your kitchen, and then drops it in some kind of grate or thing that you have to clean I’ll give it a try.[00:31:35] Nervous about it.[00:31:36] Malcolm Collins: We, we did buy it-[00:31:38] Simone Collins: I know ...[00:31:39] Malcolm Collins: for said purpose. You don’t have to cook the w- I mean, we still got a couple days left of the old stuff.[00:31:44] Simone Collins: Yeah. We have two, we have two servings left.[00:31:46] Malcolm Collins: Yeah. I mean, was the other way that you did the the, the Mongolian beef, it was to get that crispy texture that some people go for?[00:31:52] Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. But that’s just impossible to maintain after the first time you cook it, so it’s just not worth the effort.[00:31:56] Simone Collins: Yeah. Yeah, with our batch freezing methods. No. [00:32:00] Absolutely not. Okay. Well, hey, thank you for tolerating me. Is there a male... I guess this, this, this is gender neutral. Hold, hold[00:32:05] Malcolm Collins: on. She, I, I’ll give you some other s- trolls that she did.[00:32:08] Simone Collins: Okay.[00:32:09] Malcolm Collins: People keep posting, “Are you that afraid of a job?” The gold digger implication, to which she kept replying- Oh ... “Yes,” in all caps.[00:32:16] Simone Collins: That’s cute. I like that.[00:32:17] Malcolm Collins: I mean, that’s a- I like that ... reasonable response. Yeah.[00:32:23] Simone Collins: Aw.[00:32:24] Malcolm Collins: I mean, he’s a catch. She’s a catch. She also responded to a thing along the line of, “Fat people’s opinions don’t matter.”[00:32:31] Simone Collins: That is beautiful. Oh, my goodness.[00:32:34] Malcolm Collins: She, th- th- some high-tier trolling from an a... Keep in mind, you, you’re like, “Well, Mulan is the best trolling.” Yeah, but she’s an attractive woman, okay? Y- how many...[00:32:42] And you’re like, “Oh-” I[00:32:43] Simone Collins: didn’t say that’s not the best trolling.[00:32:45] Malcolm Collins: No, no, but I, some, some people are gonna be like- Oh ... and they’re like, “Oh, she’s an O- OnlyFans,” whatever. It’s like, whatever, dude. She’s making a f- fortune on OnlyFans, okay? Like, I think OnlyFans has tons of negative externalities on society. I think it’s generally a bad thing, but I think that the people who are hurt most by it are the women who use it to exploit people, and and that those people are in turn exploiting those women in a way that’s really negative.[00:33:10] But if she can get out of that cycle, get married you know, they have enough money that they don’t ever need to do anything again th- then so wha... You know, at least she got to this point, right? You know, at least she, she got to where you need to go, which is being married and having kids but for people who don’t know, I am dramatically against OnlyFans.[00:33:26] I think it’s really, really, really bad to spend your money on[00:33:30] Simone Collins: I think its days are numbered, though. I... Maybe OnlyFans still exists because people don’t realize that they can have meaningful relationships with-[00:33:39] Malcolm Collins: Or that you- ... LLMs ... can find nude pictures of women for free online. Like-[00:33:42] Simone Collins: Well, I think, I think a lot of it is that connection that, or that, that at least you can pretend, even though it’s so fake- It’s[00:33:50] Malcolm Collins: completely fake[00:33:50] Simone Collins: I know it’s so fake, and I know that Aella pointed out just how fake it is when she actually tried the, the user flow from a male perspective.[00:33:59] But I still think that men want to believe that they have a chance, in the same way that women in Japan who fall into the host club trap want to think that they are having a real relationship with the man, who then in turn begins to exploit her and turn her into a sex worker, right? Like, they, it, it’s important to some people to know that the person is real, like a real human carbon-based meat puppet, and that- Mm-hmm[00:34:33] they have a social security number. S- they get so hot for that, you know? They need, just, they need it.[00:34:41] Malcolm Collins: You can find pictures of real women online. Well, even better, with deepfakes you can just take your, the, your, your already friends and secretly make them naked. There is no reason-[00:34:53] Simone Collins: No, it’s true. Actually- ... to bear them the emotional connection[00:34:54] with deepfake, theoretically... No, you can just take the OnlyFans model. The... But no, see, they have to, I think they need that suspension of disbelief. Like, they wanna believe that she really did just text you from the bathtub wearing her Santa hat feeling horny , you know? They just wanna think it happened.[00:35:12] Guys are so stupid. But that’s part of OnlyFans. W- women do the same thing.[00:35:15] Malcolm Collins: So stupid. I do not know if they do it... Well, I guess they do, so yeah,[00:35:19] Simone Collins: right. Oh, I think that they’re less, less desperately horny on average, and so they’re less represented in this population of very, very stupid, horny actions, but still[00:35:31] Malcolm Collins: Hey, if you, if you’re desperately horny, rfab.ai, go to the search feature.[00:35:36] You could, you w- one, you can make any of your own not safe for work images or videos that you want.[00:35:40] Simone Collins: Yeah.[00:35:41] Malcolm Collins: Or you could go to the n- the search feature, the search aggregator, and do all not safe for work video sites at the same time, all not safe for work art sites at the same time. Now, the site, I, I will be fair, it does have a limitation in that I don’t have it search any site with real humans on it because I [00:36:00] find that whole industry immoral.[00:36:02] Which is a, a, an interesting take. I mean, a lot of people are quite surprised by that, but like- The[00:36:05] Simone Collins: moralizing-[00:36:07] Malcolm Collins: I don’t think arousal is, is immoral.[00:36:10] Simone Collins: But I think- No, I think, no, our whole point with sexuality is that it’s a thing that, that people experience, you know, like the need to eat and defecate. It happens, and if you’re gonna do it, like don’t, you know, spend, waste your life buying a golden toilet and like, it’s sinful to waste on these things, to, to, to overblow them and give them meaning that they don’t have.[00:36:31] And all non-procreative sex is a sin as far as we’re concerned. So kind of the point that we’re making here is, look, you’re gonna get horny sometimes. You better deal with that efficiently without spending money and without wasting a lot of time. We’ll c- we’ll get you there.[00:36:47] Malcolm Collins: Well no, and without creating big negative externalities for society, like[00:36:50] Simone Collins: traditional pornography does.[00:36:50] Yeah, we’ll get you there and you won’t hurt anyone, and you will not spend the amount of money that you would spend anywhere else. So. Unless you get like- Also, not necessarily spend anything, just using the free search engine, so.[00:37:02] Malcolm Collins: Yeah. We make all that free. Mm-hmm. I even, I even created a, the special image app, which by the way, if you downloaded it a while ago, there’s been some improvements to it for like stability reasons and stuff, that makes it way easier to just throw like four or five images on your screen and have it auto-size them so that’s pretty cool, I think[00:37:19] Simone Collins: Who knew that our lives would take this direction?[00:37:23] Malcolm Collins: I mean, this, it, it seems to actually be working. Like, like rfab’s actually, like, doing well. Pe- No,[00:37:27] Simone Collins: people really like it. People really like it ...[00:37:30] Malcolm Collins: the, the the way that, like, like, let’s see- And you[00:37:33] Simone Collins: made that, the, you made it super playful and fun[00:37:35] Malcolm Collins: Holy cow, do you know how many people are on the website right now?[00:37:38] Simone Collins: How many?[00:37:39] Malcolm Collins: 214 people[00:37:41] Simone Collins: Yeah, I want my ad campaigns turned on today.[00:37:45] Malcolm Collins: So- Oh my gosh.[00:37:47] Simone Collins: Well- I’ve been, I’ve been cranking open the spigots with my permitted-[00:37:50] Malcolm Collins: They’re doing well ... commercials ... these ad campaigns.[00:37:52] Speaker 9: Uh, are, are you okay?[00:38:16] I actually can’t get over how f*****g good this ad that she made is. , I would totally, like, if I saw this, I’d be like, “I need to, I need to use this. I need to play this.” So I’m gonna play the ad again, or at least the first part, because it is hilarious[00:38:31] Speaker 9: Uh, are, are you okay?[00:38:46] Simone Collins: This is favorable.[00:38:47] Malcolm Collins: Let’s see if we can get a lot of dedicated users. We’ve been doing a lot of stability updates ‘cause we had a crash today that I don’t like.[00:38:53] But my new d- message is, now because I’ve been working on, like, all of the pages and everything we have, like, a site mascot, which is, like, a a-[00:39:00] Simone Collins: Cat girl ...[00:39:01][00:39:01] Malcolm Collins: cyberpunk, punky, synth wave cat girl in, like, the future. Synth wave cat girl ... and she’s when, when... Simone loved so much when it had the the d- the site down because it shows the cat girl got, got bit into, like, a wire or something, and it’s like electrocuted and dead on the floor.[00:39:20] And her little soul is, like, leaving her body with a big smile. And it says, “The devs fucked up.”[00:39:26] Simone Collins: It’s great. It’s[00:39:27] Malcolm Collins: wonderful. It’s... But I like, I like it feeling very personable, you know? I like all the pages feeling very, you know, engaging. The a- adding to it can call you is this thing I’ve been working on today, but the, the companions obviously.[00:39:38] What was the other thing that, that we did recently that’s really funny? It was the it was the website.[00:39:42] Simone Collins: Simone- Well, you didn’t do it, but you really wanted to for the Chud Tech page, which lists a lot of other people’s AI creations and allows people to vote on them. You wanted to have an eagle, a bald eagle, “Ca-caw!”[00:39:55] Do a ca-caw. When, when you open the page. And [00:40:00] I’m not ready to go full MySpace aesthetically. You know? We, we don’t need flashing lights. We don’t need autoplay music.[00:40:06] Malcolm Collins: I, I like the idea of Chud Tech, “[00:40:10] Simone Collins: Ca-caw!” Ca-caw. Oh, no. No, no, no, no, no. No.[00:40:15] Malcolm Collins: Uh-huh.[00:40:16] Simone Collins: Look-[00:40:16] Malcolm Collins: Or should[00:40:17] Simone Collins: we confront, but- ... look, this is a site for parents.[00:40:19] It’s debauched, but also for children’s education. Uh-huh. And sometimes parents are trying to work with their kids napping next to them.[00:40:27] Malcolm Collins: Well, if you want, and you put it on safe for work mode, you can lock that behind a secondary password. So if a kid has an account, you can lock them out of seeing anything not safe for work.[00:40:36] Simone Collins: Oh, I thought you were saying you could lock out an eagle noise so you don’t wake up napping children. But yeah, sure.[00:40:42] Malcolm Collins: Oh, no, no, no, no. Yeah. I mean, and people are like, “Wait, why would you ma-” All of these people who are like, “There was not safe for work things around children.” And it’s like, bro, let me tell you something.[00:40:51] If your child has access to the internet, they have access to any not safe for... Any grooming site, any... Like, it is always a battle of lesser evils, and-[00:41:02] Simone Collins: Well, no, it’s, it’s a battle of annotation. You need to teach- Yeah ... your kids how to, how to deal with these things. ‘Cause otherwise they are not going to have the tools, and they’re going to go Full debauched the moment they get hit by this stuff.[00:41:15] ‘Cause with AI, with things going where they’re going, it’s just straight into their veins. We’re not snorting anymore, you know, we’re not, we’re not huffing. It’s just right into your veins. Yeah, they,[00:41:25] Malcolm Collins: they, they are on an IV strip of debauchery i-[00:41:28] Simone Collins: i- Yeah ...[00:41:29] Malcolm Collins: with, with[00:41:29] Simone Collins: where things are going. Like, the moment you open up the doors.[00:41:32] And, and it will happen. I mean, unless you plan on keeping your kid Amish and... You know, I, for whatever reason, I, I wonder why the Amish... I think that’s because with Rumspringa they’re not actually going hyper online and they’re... ‘Cause otherwise I don’t know why they have such good recovery rates.[00:41:51] Malcolm Collins: Oh, because I, I think they see how, like, crashed out pr- progressives are.[00:41:55] Simone Collins: Yeah, maybe.[00:41:56] Malcolm Collins: It’s easy[00:41:56] Simone Collins: to see that we’re- I thought they, I thought mostly Rumspringa was like, “I’m gonna get a non-compliant buggy.”[00:42:01] Malcolm Collins: Yeah, most of them don’t even really wanna do Rumspringa. Like, it’s, it’s- Yeah ... it’s actually not that universal a thing. It’s, it’s, it’s usually just like, “I want a fancy gift or something,” and then...[00:42:11] I mean, most of them are excited about getting married, right? Like, they’re excited about- Yeah, man ... moving to the next stage of their life, right? Like, it’s-[00:42:16] Simone Collins: Yeah, life goes on ...[00:42:17] Malcolm Collins: you know, once, once you show them how debauched society is, they’re just like, “Yeah, no thank you.” What was I, what was I going to say about, It’s[00:42:23] Simone Collins: different when you’re s- even slightly integrated with mainstream society, and this even shows up in Mennonite cultures when they start to often out of obligation, get, get mobile phones and stuff, then divorce rates shoot up and things just don’t go so well.[00:42:35] So yeah, it’s about annotation, it’s not about shielding. Yes. I really wonder if, if the Asmongold family becomes a family, like, will there be a se- a separate house? Will, will he essentially visit his, his wife and children in between streams? I, I wonder how it will go. Maybe he’ll just retire. Although I can’t really imagine him doing it.[00:42:54] He’s j- He wouldn’t retire ... he’s just so happy. Yeah.[00:42:56] Malcolm Collins: Yeah. That doesn’t seem to really be his personality. I mean, he, he doesn’t stream to make money, you know?[00:43:02] Simone Collins: Yeah, that’s...[00:43:03] Malcolm Collins: He could retire tomorrow if he wanted to.[00:43:07] Simone Collins: I d- I think he’d be a great dad, though. Like, you can tell. He’ll be a super fun dad. So I could just see him wanting to take time for that.[00:43:15] We’ll see. I’m happy for him. I hope this is it. All[00:43:17] Malcolm Collins: right.[00:43:18] Simone Collins: Yeah.[00:43:19] Malcolm Collins: I love you, Simone. You’re amazing, Simone. Thank you for your time, Simone. And for all of you guys out there if a woman gives you a bunch of demands, that doesn’t necessarily mean that it’s toxic or bad. It could even be a entirely positive sign for the relationship.[00:43:33] Simone Collins: Yeah. Especially if the- does she, does she know who you are, what you want to become, and would these demands contribute to that? Be so honest with yourself because if they do, then she’s a keeper and amazing, and you should listen to her.[00:43:48] Malcolm Collins: Oh, yeah.[00:43:49] Simone Collins: But if it’s just about m- turning you into whatever she wants, that is toxic.[00:43:54] It’s not a s**t test, but that, that version is toxic. And many women do that, like, “I just need you to be [00:44:00] the prestigious money-making thing that I exploit,” which is super messed up and not uncommon, Malcolm, so it’s fair enough to say that that happens and that people should watch out for that. That is not at all what Asmongold’s girlfriend is doing, so-[00:44:14] Malcolm Collins: Yes[00:44:14] she’s fine. All right. Love you, Simone. Bye. Bye. Oh, f**k me. The site’s down again?[00:44:21] Simone Collins: What?[00:44:23] Malcolm Collins: How is the site down? Ugh.[00:44:27] Simone Collins: Oh, please fix it. Is it that there are many people?[00:44:29] Malcolm Collins: No, something did an environment upgrade. I don’t know what did an environment upgrade that knocked the site down.[00:44:34] Simone Collins: All right. I’ll leave you to it.[00:44:35] I’m sorry.[00:44:36] Malcolm Collins: All right, love you. Hang in[00:44:37] Simone Collins: there. Mm. Octavian, you’re going to wake up- No. No. No. You need to... No, it’s too loud. It will wake up Ted. D- play in the kitchen, okay? You can play in the kitchen. Thank you. Swear to God.[00:44:55] Malcolm Collins: Oh, actually dinner tonight I want fried rice. It was so good yesterday. What I like about it is it’s good even when I’m, I’m not in... Like, my stomach isn’t really ready for it yet. Yeah, it’s, And don’t give me new chicken eggs. Give me old chicken eggs. I don’t want the, the... Something could be wrong with the new ones.[00:45:10] They’re the first ones out. You know, the first[00:45:11] Simone Collins: ones- Malcolm, they’re not. It’s a fine egg. I-[00:45:14] Malcolm Collins: Give me the old eggs, okay? You gave me the first egg from a chicken. I don’t want the first egg. That’s for children, okay? They can, they can take that stuff.[00:45:22] Simone Collins: Oh, it’s a special egg. It was so cute. It’s adorable. All right, all right.[00:45:27] Just don’t give me first eggs. You’re so choosy. “Oh, I don’t want this egg that was laid[00:45:33] Malcolm Collins: fresh[00:45:34] Simone Collins: when we[00:45:34] Malcolm Collins: might-” And don’t forget the chilies this time.[00:45:35] Simone Collins: I will not forget the chilies this time.[00:45:37] Malcolm Collins: And you can use some of the peppers, the shishito peppers and onions.[00:45:41] Simone Collins: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, ‘cause you just bought those.[00:45:43] Of course, yeah. Yeah, I got those[00:45:44] Malcolm Collins: super ripe peppers.[00:45:44] Simone Collins: So it’ll be a very verdant,[00:45:46] Mix. All right, I get it. And the green onions. Rice.[00:45:49] Malcolm Collins: Oh, and mix in the green onions. Last time you didn’t mix in the green onions.[00:45:52] Simone Collins: No, I actually did half in and then half on top at the end.[00:45:56] Malcolm Collins: Oh, just mix them all in. There’s no reason to have any on top.[00:45:59] Simone Collins: Fine. I just thought it added a little bit of a color flourish. But I will not do that again. So sorry. Ooh, bad Simone. So bad. Oh. I[00:46:11] Malcolm Collins: hate you so much, Simone.[00:46:12] Simone Collins: I... So I have some hard-hitting China analysis. We... I was chatting on Signal with Brian about Fox Girls ‘cause I was trying to explain VTubers and- He sent, he’s like, “Why do they, why do they look like that?”[00:46:28] And then he sent me images of anime girls that were Chinese fox girls, and all their ears are like little lamb ears, got the little, like, down slope. So I, I’m looking up the Tibetan fox. I’m looking up all, like, versus American fox. I’m trying to figure out why the ears are sloping. Mm-hmm. And my new theory is that it’s because they are domesticated fox girls, because remember they did that domestication fox experiment, and what happens is the foxes got sort of cuter, and then they got floppy ears.[00:47:01] And maybe it’s just th- these are domesticated fox women, and so their ears have gone floppy, and that’s my theory.[00:47:09] Malcolm Collins: I’m not, I’m not seeing it, the floppy ears. But that, that is what[00:47:12] Simone Collins: happens. I- No, no. The, the, the, the, no, the, the Tibetan fox does not have floppy ears. It just has, in my opinion, an unfortunate face.[00:47:20] I, I’m not a fox race- maybe I’m a fox racist. I don’t-[00:47:24] Malcolm Collins: Wait, how can it be an ugly fox? Tibetan fox. So he’s saying that the, Oh, it does have an unfortunate face.[00:47:30] I’m so sorry. That is not an attractive animal. I[00:47:36] know. I’m just so[00:47:37] Simone Collins: s- Ugh, I felt so bad. I’m like, “Oh, sweetie.”[00:47:40] Malcolm Collins: It’s just[00:47:40] Simone Collins: not a good, not a good look. And then you compare that to the North American fox, and it looks so-[00:47:45] Malcolm Collins: The North American fox is so much better looking.[00:47:47] Simone Collins: I know. I[00:47:48] Malcolm Collins: don’t even know, like, w- I, I, I’m not even saying, like, sexy or whatever, but I’m like, this is a nicely, this is a very aesthetically pleasing[00:47:56] Simone Collins: animal.[00:47:56] It’s a, yeah, no, it’s, this is the fox that you would want, you know, like, [00:48:00] y- if you had to get a Christmas ornament of a fox, I would want the North American fox.[00:48:05] Malcolm Collins: Foxes might actually be the maximally aesthetically pleasing animal,[00:48:08] Simone Collins: I think. They’re or- well, there’s, yeah, like, there’s, there’s the reason why, you know, they’re fox woman YouTubers.[00:48:13] Malcolm Collins: Vixens.[00:48:14] Simone Collins: Vix- right. Vixens, yeah. We don’t... Yeah, fox is not used to describe someone who’s comely, except you haven’t seen a Tibetan fox then yet.[00:48:23] Malcolm Collins: Yeah. Oh, whoa. She’s a fox- ... of the Tibetan variety. Oh, yeah. We gotta start using that to talk about VTubers. Should we be like, “Offline?” Tibetan fox. “She’s a bit of a Tibetan fox-” Oh, my God[00:48:34] if you know what I mean.” No.[00:48:40] Simone Collins: See, so the, the thoughts that occupy my mind[00:48:43] Malcolm Collins: when[00:48:44] Simone Collins: we’re[00:48:44] Malcolm Collins: not[00:48:44] Simone Collins: having-[00:48:44] Malcolm Collins: She an American fox or a Tibetan fox? Like, what are we talking here?[00:48:48] Simone Collins: Oh, my God.[00:48:49] Malcolm Collins: You’re very cute, Simone. Any, any other new things from Brian?[00:48:54] Simone Collins: He’s starting a new, a new media li- li- like I was talking about. I’m, I’m super excited about it.[00:48:58] I, I think he’s gonna have some really cool breaking stories, ‘cause he’s using AI to unco- undercover stuff that gumshoe investigators and local investigative journalists used to do, but they don’t exist anymore because no one pays for them. So step in- All right ... citizen journal Brian. I’m excited[00:49:24] Speaker 10: Said you want a bracelet. What else did you want?[00:49:26] stuff, so we’re gonna buy them, and so we all of them Wait, so what am I buying? You’re buying all the stuff I want. All the stuff you want? What is all the stuff you want?[00:49:46] I’m not telling you. It’s a secret. Well, but then how will I know what to buy?[00:50:00] Okay Did you say you wanted something for your hair? Yeah. What did you want in your hair? A bow tie A pink and purple bow tie[00:50:49] Andy. 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