Winding Paths
Winding Paths
Aaron Shapiro & Joseph Gerstel
Windings Paths is an exploration of career pivots, something both hosts, Aaron Shapiro and Joseph Gerstel, former big law lawyers are still managing through. In each episode, we’ll sit down with other lawyers who've pursued opportunities outside law firms and legal practice to learn about their journeys. We’ll explore how they got to where they are, what motivated them, how they thought about career risk, and what advice they’d offer to others considering this jump. Join us and discover what it takes to forge your own winding path.
Ep. 7 | From Big Law to Big Ten: How Adam Neuman became Chief of Staff of the Big Ten Conference less than two years out of law school
Adam Neuman is a sports fanatic. Adam is Chief of Staff and right-hand man to Kevin Warren, Commissioner of the Big Ten Conference. He’s less than four years out of law school, and get this, he nabbed this pretty cool position less than two years out of law school. How did Adam do it? Well it’s a bit of a crazy story... And you’ll just have to listen to this episode to here the rest. Joseph Gerstel & Aaron Shapiro 
May 16, 2022
1 hr
Ep. 6 | Samantha Coxe, CEO & Co-Founder of Flaus
Samantha Coxe was spending multiple nights on the floor in her office at Skadden when she decided to make her entrepreneurial dreams a reality. After three and a half years as an M&A associate, Sam jumped ship to  launch Flaus, a dental wellness company focused first on developing an eco-friendly electric flosser.  In this episode we discuss:  How Sam had a hardware product designed with no engineering background Great legal resources that can help you launch a company including Cooley Go and Y Combinator’s free document resources  How Flaus pre-sold more than $300K of its electric flosser hero product on IndieGoGo Raising money from friends and family  What a SAFE is, and why it can be an attractive way to raise early capital  How Sam reflects on the risk she took leaving a high-paying job as a mid-level associate We had an awesome conversation with Sam and we hope you’ll find her journey as inspiring as we do! Joseph & Aaron
Apr 10, 2022
57 min
Ep. 5 | Alex Knight: Corp. Associate to Chief Revenue Officer at Best Company
Alex Knight always had a hunch that he would ultimately pursue something outside legal practice. So after graduating from Harvard Law School in 2018, and spending just under two years as a corporate associate at Fenwick & West out in California, Alex moved home to Utah to start working as Director of Strategic Initiatives at Best Company, where he is now Chief Revenue Officer.  In this episode we discuss:  How Alex made the move from corporate associate to Director of Strategic initiatives at Best Company The cultural and workstyle differences between legal practice at a large law firm and strategic work at a growing company How Alex thought about the risk of leaving his stable legal career  Alex’s advice to law students on how to make the most of law school   Alex was a real pleasure to speak to and an awesome human being. Enjoy the convo! Joseph & Aaron 
Apr 1, 2022
1 hr
Ep. 4 | Jake Yormak: Junior Associate to Founding His Own VC firm
Hear about how Jake Yormak went from being a junior associate at a premier New York law firm to founding his own venture capital firm, Story Ventures, with his brother
Mar 21, 2022
1 hr 3 min