<p class="p1">Invest for change, not just cash. Danyal Satter, CEO of Big Issue Invest, urges us to rethink what makes a good return. He says it's time to broaden our view and appreciate the real impact all investments have. Listen in to my conversation with Danyal about why redefining returns is vital.</p>

22. Why seeing brand language as art matters

A collection of interviews with leaders who are passionate about something that is at risk of being overlooked. Sometimes it's a brand, a product or a service but it can also be an idea - something that is losing its relevancy for many.

And to re-establish relevance you need someone with vision and drive to explain why it matters.

These conversations are hosted by Michael Gough. He's a consultant with over twenty-years experience in helping organisations develop clear, concise and compelling brand and marketing that delivers growth.

Get in touch with Michael using the email podcast@whyitmatters.co.uk

Or follow him on Instagram @ _whyitmatters_