What Bitcoin Did
What Bitcoin Did
Danny Knowles
The $60 Billion Bitcoin Bet | Strategy CEO Phong Le
1 hour 16 minutes Posted Nov 28, 2025 at 3:36 pm.
Welcome to Australia, Fong
Michael's Initial Bitcoin Pitch to Fong
MicroStrategy's Cash Position
Treasury Companies Don't Have Underlying Business
Underlying Company Is Now
Convertible Notes And Preferreds
The Preferreds
Interest That You Have To Pay Out Annually
Getting Gain in Bitcoin
Strategy is Far and Away Biggest
Regulation and Markets
Bitcoin Upside Down as Earnings
There Has to Be the S&P 500 Index
Treasury Companies That Want To Put Bitcoin
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Phong Le, CEO of Strategy, joins the show to break down exactly how the world’s biggest Bitcoin treasury company works. The Bitcoin-backed credit markets, the preferreds, the leverage, and how Strategy keeps buying Bitcoin in bull and bear markets.

We dig into how MicroStrategy pivoted during 2020, how Phong and Michael Saylor built the Bitcoin treasury model from scratch, and why Strategy believes Bitcoin is still radically undervalued. Phong explains Strike, Strife, Stride, and Stretch, how these preferreds create Bitcoin yield, why they work even when price is down, and how Strategy thinks about dilution, MNAV premiums, and raising billions without selling sats.

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