We Should Talk About That
We Should Talk About That
Jessica Buchanan and Jessica Kidwell
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NYT bestselling author of Impossible Odds, Jessica Buchanan, along with fellow writer Jessica Kidwell, attempt to unpack the uncomfortable topics that nobody is talking about, but definitely should. With intention to hold real, authentic, conversation about EVERYTHING, the Two Jess(es) bring their humor and a healthy dose of self-deprecation to the table as they unpack issues relating to PTSD, grief, imposter syndrome, body image, middle age, the plight of the working mom and more.
Our Happy Divorce: How Ending Our Marriage Brought US Together with Nikki DeBartolo and Benjamin Heldfond
From dinners and homework to holiday card photos and summer vacations, Nikki DeBartolo and Ben Heldfond have created a tight-knit, enviable family. They work and play well together, from the smallest daily tasks to the biggest life events—and it only took a divorce to get them there. Though their marriage has been over for over a decade, they still share a happy life with each other and their son Asher, along with their spouses and children.The Two Jess(es) sit down with Nikki and Ben and witness this phenomenon first hand. Two people who are self-aware enough to realize they "got the path of being in love and loving each other mixed up," in itself is incredible, but to hear them speak of their commitment and respect for their son, and how putting him first became the only thing that mattered, is not only inspiring, but an important example for parents everywhere- married or divorced.To find out more about Ben and Nikki's experience you can go to https://ourhappydivorce.com/ and read their book: https://www.amazon.com/Our-Happy-Divorce-Marriage-Together/dp/1631779974/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Our+Happy+Divorce&qid=1568927277&sr=8-1Support the show (http://www.paypal.com)
Jun 14
48 min
Black Boy Out of Time: A Conversation on Childhood Gender, Race, and Reparations with Writer, Magazine Editor, and LGBQTI Advocate, Hari Ziyad
In celebration of the diversity and accomplishments that have taken place in the LGBQTIA community amidst so much historical adversity and discrimination, the Two Jess(es) have the extreme privilege of sitting down with one of the most thought-provoking journalists working today.  Hari Ziyad, author of  Black Boy Out of Time, candidly shares their experience of growing up Black and queer in America—and in a blended family as one of nineteen children. In BLACK BOY OUT OF TIME, Hari Ziyad recalls their childhood with a Hindu Hare Krsna mother and a Muslim father in Cleveland, Ohio, and navigating the equally complex path toward finding their true self in New York City. Exploring childhood, gender, race, and the trust that is built, broken, and repaired through generations, Ziyad investigates what it means to live beyond the limited narratives Black children are given and challenges the irreconcilable binaries that restrict them.This is a conversation that really digs into Hari's experience as a young, queer, Black, non-binary human who is brave enough to share their stories and how they show up in the world authentically in order to honor their past, present and future in a way that advocates, educates and celebrates.Meet Hari:Hari Ziyad is a screenwriter, the bestselling author of Black Boy Out of Time (Little A, 2021) and the Editor-in-Chief of RaceBaitr. They received their BFA from New York University, where they concentrated in Film and Television and Psychology. Their work is informed by their passion for storytelling, and wrestling with identity as a Cleveland, Ohio-born Black, non-binary child of Muslim and Hindu parents.​They are a 2021 Lambda Literary Fellow, and their writing has been featured in Gawker, Out, The Guardian, Huffington Post, Ebony, Mic, Paste Magazine, AFROPUNK, in the peer-reviewed academic journal Critical Ethnic Studies, and in the anthology co–edited by Michael Dumas, Ashley Woodson and Carl Grant entitled The Future is Black: Afropessimism, Fugitivity and Radical Hope in Education, among other publications. They are also a script consultant on the drama series David Makes Man (OWN), a columnist (and the former Managing Editor) of Black Youth Project, and an Assistant Editor of Vinyl Poetry & Prose.https://www.hariziyad.com/Support the show (http://www.paypal.com)
Jun 7
45 min
100th Episode Celebration with Joey Klei- An Episode of Pure JOY!
100 Episodes.100 freaking episodes.The Two Jess(es) are here, for the ONE HUNDREDTH TIME, and bringing one of their most joyful WeSTATers and dear friend, Joey Klei on, to co-host right along with them. Amidst the conversations between TTJ(es) and Joey, past guests from We Should Talk About That, as well as listeners from the WeSTAT community, share their contributions of what bring them JOY.The conversation goes from hard back books to eating in restaurants, air fryers, and singing Mr. Rogers songs. It is clear that what brings us all joy, is the simple things like reheating pizza and the feeling of cool sheets on a hot evening!This episode is not only a celebration, but marks the accomplishment of TTJ(es) and sticking to the mission of creating a space for authentic conversation so that others might feel less isolated and alone.  For more reference on past guests that have contributed to this episode, check out the following WeSTAT episodes:- Rachel Lankester: https://www.buzzsprout.com/768062/7448023- Gia Hassan: https://www.buzzsprout.com/768062/7586719- Andrea Driessen: https://www.buzzsprout.com/768062/7732705 - Cherie Craft: https://www.buzzsprout.com/768062/8088329- Sherrie Price: https://www.buzzsprout.com/768062/7114633- Dr. Bat Sheva Marcus: https://www.buzzsprout.com/768062/8046730- Shauna Ahern: https://www.buzzsprout.com/768062/5316610- Dr. Rachel Orscheln: https://www.buzzsprout.com/768062/4448477- Annette Brechbill: https://www.buzzsprout.com/768062/8271296Support the show (http://www.paypal.com)
May 31
45 min
Cancelling Cancel Culture Through the Lens of Compassion with Performing Arts Director and Activist, Betty Hart
Betty Hart lives a life of intention. And that intention is what led her down the exploratory road of investigating why we, as a culture, cancel the people we love and who have had a positive impact on our lives, because they espouse something we don't agree, or may hurt us on a spiritual level. Betty proposes that compassion for those we love, and who love us back, deconstructs the practice of cancel culture, and allows for space to suffer along side someone, on their good days and bad days- allowing us an opportunity to plant seeds of love, through curiosity, and a willingness to ask questions in order to get a clearer context of what is said, or the message that is displayed. Clearly, Betty has hit a nerve with her ideas, as her TED talk has been viewed over 1 million times. This is a challenging conversation that makes room for the real reason for communication- listening to understand, and allowing everyone the opportunity to choose their own path. Betty advocates for giving space, loving, and allowing ourselves the opportunity to work and be with those who believe differently, live differently, speak differently than us.Betty also offers an inside look into how the arts were devastated by the pandemic, and brings perspective to the life of an artist and the shut down for so many on a heart, soul and financial level. Meet Betty!Betty is a theatre artist whose mission is to help create space for necessary conversations.   Through acting, directing and facilitating, Betty strives to be a change agent and a force for positivity, creativity, and collaboration.   In 2020, Betty had the opportunity to direct the Henry nominated The Scottsboro Boys for Vintage Theatre.  She also directed Josh Kroenig’s Vroom Vroom for Local Lab, which audiences never saw due to the theatre wide shut down.  Betty performed in Stories on Stage “Don’t look away: Black stories matter”.  In the “before” Betty performed in Barnum at the Fine Arts Center, Caroline, or Change at the Aurora Fox, Richard III and You Can’t Take it with you at the Colorado Shakespeare Festival, the immersive outdoor show Rausch with the Catamounts, and had the great privilege of being in The Mountaintop at the Arvada Center in 2016.In 2021, Betty directed To the Moon by Beth Kander, a powerful domestic violence awareness play for Creede Repertory Theatre and has just completed directing a devised theatrical film for the University of Northern Colorado called 2020 Speaks, which will be streamed in late April.Instagram:  @actorbettyCheck out Betty's TED talk @ https://www.ted.com/talks/betty_hart_how_compassion_could_save_your_strained_relationships?language=enSupport the show (http://www.paypal.com)
May 24
50 min
If These Ovaries Could Talk...Two Lesbian Podcast Hosts Chatting About Non-Traditional Families.
**Barnyard Language Alert!!!** Listen without little ears present :-)Jess and Jess laugh til they pee their pants with these two podcasters, Jaimie Kelton and Robin Hopkins, co-hosts of "If These Ovaries Could Talk." Lesbians who have had to take a non-traditional approach to building their families, they decided it was high time to start talking about and sharing stories that represent the LGBTQ community and the highs and lows of baby making, family building, instilling pride in their kids about their family constellation, and everything in between. A conversation about podcasting, the pandemic and what it is to speak your truth as a mom, a podcaster, just a human being, this conversation is entertaining as well as enlightening. For more hillariousness, check out "If These Ovaries Could Talk" wherever you get your  podcasts!Meet Jaimie and Robin! Jaimie Kelton is an actor, singer, dancer, voice over artist and podcaster based in New York City. She has over 17 years of experience performing on stages in NYC, as well as in Regional Theaters, on National tours, and for a few dreamlike years, singing and tanning on a cruise ship. She is a Helen Hayes Award Recipient. Her voice can be heard in various forms on Disney’s hit cartoon, The Octonauts, SYFY’sHAPPY!, and Amazon’s soon to be aired, Bug Diaries. She co-hosts the podcast If These Ovaries Could Talk, where she chats with non-traditional families about making babies when making babies doesn’t come naturally. She lives with her wife, two children and a tiny dog in Manhattan.For her day job, Robin is an Executive Producer of "Amy Schumer Presents: 3 Girls, 1  Keith" the original podcast on Spotify.  But, Robin is also an actor, writer and producer who began her career as a stand-up comic. She is a frequent contributor to Medium and Huff Po with essays featured in the Parents and Queer Voices sections. Robin is also an accomplished playwright. Her one-woman show, In Search of Tulla Berman debuted to sold-out crowds in San Francisco and enjoyed subsequent runs in Winnipeg, Canada, the Pelican Theatre in New York City, and ended with a month-long run at the Ars Nova Theatre. Her Film &TV credits include Boardwalk Empire, Louie and Hindsight and some really great “big hands acting” on Celebrity Ghost Stories and Monsters Inside Me. Most recently, Robin merged all of her creative worlds producing, writing and acting in the comedic digital short series Stupid Michelle & Dumb Robin.https://www.ovariestalk.com/Support the show (http://www.paypal.com)
May 17
44 min
Body Inclusivity and Finding Yourself Through Style with Influencer Blonde In The District, Dani Sauter
When Dani Sauter decided to take the plunge and leave a government contracting job for a marketing startup, she was challenged creatively and professionally, in ways she hadn't anticipated. She discovered getting up and putting on a red lip and something she felt good in, was the key to opening up the door to her creativity and the start of her unbelievably popular blog and instagram account Blonde In the District (@blonde_inthedistrict). In this episode, The Two Jess(es) continue on in their theme of JOY for the month of May, with a conversation with Dani about what life is like as a plus sized model and social media influencer. Dani shares the need for more size inclusivity in boutiques and local stores, and how to find your sense of self through style, as well as a general encouragements on wearing what you feel best in- no rules to follow!To find out more about the awesome work Dani is doing, check her out at https://www.blondeinthedistrict.com/ or on IG @blonde_inthedistrict.Support the show (http://www.paypal.com)
May 10
41 min
An Episode of Celebration!!! 100 Episodes Strong and ALL the Things That Bring Us JOY!
It's been a YEAR. Or more, but who's counting? The Two Jess(es) began this podcasting adventure in January of 2020, bright eyed and ready to take the world by storm...And then it ALL CHANGED. Throughout a global pandemic, job loss, homeschooling and just the usual stuff of trying to survive, Jess and Jess have continued to research, read, reach out, connect, hold space for authentic conversation and have a little bit of fun tossed in! And THEY ARE PROUD. Proud of their accomplishments of consistency, commitment to this project, to the WeSTAT Community...and to each other, and they are here to celebrate!The month of May is going to be all JOY! While this episode is about what TTJ(es) find joy in, they would like to hear from you! If you would like to add your contribution to the Memorial Day episode, please send a message of voice note to info@westatpod.com or DM them on IG @westatpod. We are so glad you are here!Support the show (http://www.paypal.com)
May 3
20 min
Collaborating with Menopause and Feeling at the Top of Your Game with National Menopause Foundation Founder, Claire Gill
When Clair Gill realized there was a foundation set up to 'Save the Bats' but nothing out there to address the needs of menopausal women, she decided it was completely unacceptable, and maybe,  there was room for both! Unwilling to go down the menopause rabbit hole quietly, Claire is on a mission to lift the shame and taboo that come with growing older as a woman in this age obsessed society. As she looked for peer to peer support, she realized the only organizations really set up to address menopause were geared toward clinicians (mostly men, who were not experiencing menopause anyway!) so she has turned it on it's head.This is a fired up conversation about what women need and want as they move into the second half of their life. The need for resources and support that have been addressed by Claire and her team, and are now available because of the National Menopause Foundation is an invaluable contribution that must be acknowledged. More than anything, this is  just a feel good message about all the possibilities that are available to women as they grow fabulously older- thanks to women who are determined to make it the best time of their lives, and yours!Meet Claire!After a 20+ year career in public relations and marketing for national nonprofits andpublic relations firms with Fortune 500 clients, Claire Gill founded the NationalMenopause Foundation in September 2019. While serving as Chief Mission Officer for ahealth-based nonprofit, Ms. Gill realized there was no national nonprofit dedicatedsolely to women’s journey to and through menopause, so she set out to create one. TheNational Menopause Foundation’s mission is create a positive change in how peopleperceive, understand and experience menopause through education, peer-to-peersupport, activism, and research.Through its website, The Positive Pause podcast, The Hot Flash electronic newsletter,and its online community, called The Menopause Metamorphosis, the NationalMenopause Foundation seeks to bring about a world where women thrive at everystage of their lives and have access to the information and networks that ensuremenopause is a positive, inspiring and empowering time in every woman’s life.Ms. Gill also serves as the Chief Executive Officer of the National OsteoporosisFoundation, which has a strategic alliance with the National Menopause Foundation.Ms. Gill is a graduate of Syracuse University’s Newhouse School. She is a member of LesDames d’Escoffier International (LDEI), a philanthropic organization supporting womenin the food, beverage and hospitality industries. She and her family reside in Lorton, VA.For more information, visit: https://nationalmenopausefoundation.org/ and don't forget to subscribe to  The Positive Pause Podcast at: https://nationalmenopausefoundation.org/podcast-2/Support the show (http://www.paypal.com)
Apr 26
41 min
We Stand With Nikki: A Conversation on Criminalizing Survivors with the Nicole Addimando Community Defense Committee
In this episode, Jess and Jess sit down for a very honest and difficult conversation with Rebecca McWilliams and Wendy Freedman, both avid supporters and advocates as well as members of the Nicole Addimando Community Defense Committee. Together, they introduce Nikki Addimando, a mother of two, teacher, respected community member, and domestic violence survivor. In 2017, Nikki was forced to protect herself and her children's lives, by killing her abuser, Chris Grover. In February 2020, Nikki was sentenced to 19 years to life for the killing of her abuser, and the Community Defense Committee believes Nikki is a victim of the criminal justice system, and will not accept this result of Nikki protecting her own life, as well as that of her children's.It's not shocking that 67% of women sent to prison in 2005 for killing someone close to them were abused by the victim of their crime (NYS Department of Corrections and Community Supervision). Rebecca and Wendy share their expertise and advocacy work around not just Nikki's case, but also for every woman who is being held hostage by their abuser, and sees the only way out is to defend themselves in whatever manner possible. By raising awareness about Nikki and the horrific abuse she survived, the Committee aims to keep other victims of domestic violence from being criminalized by the courts, but more than that, they work tirelessly to continue advocating on behalf of Nikki, so that she may be justly returned home to live in safety with her two children. On April 22, 2021, Nicole Addimando will stand before a judge for her appeal hearing and the hope and prayer is that Nikki's sentence will be overturned. We Stand With Nikki and other criminalized survivors, that justice indeed will be served, and Nikki will no longer be criminalized for her right to survive, and that she will be rightfully returned to the arms of her two children, so that she may take her place as a pillar of strength and resilience in her community, once again. For more information about We Stand With Nikki and the Nicole Addimando Community Defense Committee, as well as a complete resource list for organizations and articles about Nikki and the issue around criminalizing survivors, go to: https://westandwithnikki.com/*** For more in depth information on Nikkis case and the overall issue of criminalized survival keep an eye out for Justine Vanderluen's upcoming podcast "Believe Her" presented by Lemonada in association with Speigel and Grau, set to be released Fall of 2021.Meet Wendy:Wendy Freedman is a clinical psychologist and the director of the Vassar College Counseling Service. Deep affection and love for her family, friends and community has led to a passion for social justice, and a commitment to partner with fellow allies to try to contribute to positive change. Wendy has been honored to be a member of the Nicole Addimando Community Defense Committee for over 3 years and is privileged to work with an incredible group of advocates to fight for Nikki and all criminalized survivors. Meet Rebecca:Rebecca McWilliams is the Executive Director of Girls on the Run Birmingham in Birmingham Alabama. She is a native of Baltimore, MD and received her BA in Public Communications from American University. She is passionate about empowering women and girls, and through her work advocating for Nikki Addimando, has become increasingly aware of our troubled criminal justice and prison systems and the deep inequities that exist within those systems. She is a proud member of the Nicole Addimando Community Defense Committee. Support the show (http://www.paypal.com)
Apr 18
1 hr 5 min
We Should Talk About Women's Safety Awareness and Why It's Not Just a Woman's Issue with Women's Safety Instructor, Meredith Moore
April is Sexual Violence Awareness Month, and so The Two Jess(es) think it's time for a conversation about Women's safety and how it is absolutely NOT a woman's issue, it's a human right's issue, and Meredith Moore of Greylake Training Solutions is here to educate us all on this crucial issue. And her education approach is for EVERYONE.  She works to arm women with situational awareness and intuition skills that will empower them to protect themselves in a way that enables them detect subtle cues that help them assess behaviors and situations, ultimately trusting their intuition.This is an episode every person should make time to listen to. And while the focus is on women's safety, this conversation is a deep dive into how we trust our intuition, how we get to really know it- and Jess B shares a very personal story about her experience of shutting off her intuition and how it changed her life.To Register for Meredith's Awareness Training click here and use the code WESTAT2021 for  25% off:  https://academy.globalguardian.com/courses/womens-safety-awareness Meet Meredith!Meredith Moore, Founder and CEO of Greylake Training Solutions, has been teaching women's security awareness training for eight years. Meredith led women's security programs in her previous positions in the corporate security departments at the World Bank, the International Monetary Fund, and through her consulting firm, which she founded in 2018. She was also a member of the United Nation's working group on women's security awareness training and has personally taught over 1000 women safety skillsthroughout her career, and she's just getting started. At the end of this month, Greylake is partnering with Global Guardian to launch an online women's security awareness training.Support the show (http://www.paypal.com)
Apr 12
46 min
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