Exploring how we can complete big projects, events, workshops etc without having that dreaded work hangover.

#NotOnBrand

Ann de Passos and Kim van Niekerk on leadership and the impact of the state you lead from. Conversations about pressure, presence, burnout, and what becomes available when the nervous system isn't managing threat. Sometimes just us. Sometimes sharing space with a leader who knows the terrain.

Music by Anastasia Chubarova.

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