The View Looks Good
The View Looks Good
Ann de Passos and Kim van Niekerk
Ann de Passos and Kim van Niekerk on leadership and the impact of the state you lead from. Conversations about pressure, presence, burnout, and what becomes available when the nervous system isn't managing threat. Sometimes just us. Sometimes sharing space with a leader who knows the terrain. Music by Anastasia Chubarova. Visit theviewlooksgood.com to find out more about what we offer.
S4 E10: Grounded Leadership: A Conversation with Ramona Fellermeier
In this episode, we’re joined by Ramona Fellermeier, founder of Cura Spaces, for a rich and reflective conversation about building a business that is deeply aligned with who you are.Ramona shares her journey of creating Cura Spaces and how her approach to organisational team and leadership development is shaped by curiosity, connection and self-awareness. We explore what it means to allow personal values and professional practice to be intertwined, rather than held apart, and how this creates more sustainable, meaningful ways of working.Together, we talk about navigating self-doubt, the evolution of belief systems, and the role of ongoing personal growth in leadership. Ramona also reflects on the importance of long-term relationships over short-term wins, and how strong, trusted partnerships become the foundation for resilience and impact in business.A thoughtful episode for leaders and founders who are interested in building grounded, human-centred businesses that evolve alongside them.
Jan 20
52 min
S4 E9: Are you in relationship with money?
In this episode, Ann and Kim place money on the table — not as a problem to solve, but as a relationship to notice. What begins as a conversation about discomfort, avoidance, and judgement slowly opens into something softer: a sense that money can be met with curiosity, connection, and even care.Together, they explore how many of us spend years out of relationship with money — ignoring it, resenting it, fearing it, or handing responsibility to someone else. Through a nervous system–first lens, they name the familiar patterns that surface around finances: the rising urgency, the tight control, the distance, the shutdown, the freeze, and the inner critic who narrates all of it.As Kim shares a recent insight — imagining what it might look like to mother money, Ann shares how this has led to something shifting for her.The episode covers:How sympathetic, dorsal, and freeze responses often shape our behaviours with moneyThe beliefs we carry from family, culture, and past experiencesThe surprising relief that emerges when we simply acknowledge, “I will be okay”The link between money and self-worth, especially when it comes to spending on our own wellbeingThe courage it takes to name a need and ask for what supports usHow playfulness, spaciousness, and a sense of “enoughness” become available when we reconnectWhy the amount of money we have is rarely the real issue — it’s the relationship that creates safety or strainThis conversation doesn’t offer a formula or a promise of abundance. Instead, it offers something far more honest and nourishing: an invitation to come into relationship with money in a way that honours your body, your capacity, and your lived experience.By the end, we hope money feels less like a threat or a mystery, and more like another place where connection, care, and growth are possible.
Dec 11, 2025
43 min
S4 E8: Understanding Children's Emotions
In this episode, Ann and Kim talk about what’s really going on beneath children’s big emotions – and why the first step is almost always to regulate ourselves as parents. They unpack simple anchors like “connect before you correct” and the “regulate, relate, reason” flow to help you navigate those heated moments with more steadiness and care - concepts shared by the NHS who offered a wonderful workshop for parents.You’ll hear how dysregulation is a natural part of being human, how to spot it in yourself, and why co-regulation is so essential for children’s emotional development. Ann and Kim share practical ways to model emotional regulation, validate your child’s feelings while still guiding them, and create everyday pathways for learning these skills over time.This is a gentle, hopeful conversation for any parent or carer who wants fewer power struggles, more connection, and a reminder that emotional regulation is something we can all learn – together – as we go.Key Moments00:30 — What the brain is doing when emotions run high05:00 — Why children can’t self-regulate alone09:00 — Noticing when we’re the dysregulated ones16:00 — Why quiet doesn’t always mean calm18:00 — The social shame of public meltdowns21:30 — Personal signs of dysregulation26:00 — What safety feels like in the body30:00 — The “emptying out” image for being present35:00 — Turning rupture into repair38:00 — How co-regulation rewires safety in the brainCo-regulation • Parenting • Nervous system • Emotional regulation • Dysregulation • Safety • Connection • Polyvagal theory • Emotional literacy • Repair • Awareness • Family relationships • Trauma-informed parenting
Nov 13, 2025
46 min
S4 E7: The Highs and Lows of Comparing Ourselves
In this conversation, Ann and Kim explore the pervasive nature of comparison in human behaviour and the impact of judgment on self-worth. They discuss how social media amplifies comparison and the various emotional responses it triggers before shifting the dialogue towards finding growth through comparison, emphasising the importance of gratitude as a crucial way to get there.Key Takeaways:Comparison is a natural human behaviour rooted in evolution.Judgment can lead to feelings of inadequacy and discomfort.Social media amplifies the frequency of comparison.Finding growth through comparison can be empowering.Gratitude can serve as an antidote to negative comparisons.Self-worth is essential in navigating comparison healthily.Creating a supportive community can help in personal growth.Awareness of our emotional responses to comparison is crucial.Practicing gratitude can enhance our sense of self.It's important to be gentle with ourselves during this process.
Sep 17, 2025
37 min
S4 E6: Grrr...so much workplace hostility!
In this eye-opening episode, we delve into the staggering impact of incivility in the workplace, where $2 billion is lost daily in the US due to reduced productivity and absenteeism. Join us as we explore the subtle yet powerful effects of rude and disrespectful behaviour, and how it undermines workplace harmony. Discover practical insights on fostering a culture of respect and understanding, and learn how personal and organisational change can transform the work environment. Tune in to uncover strategies for creating a more civil and productive workplace.
Jul 17, 2025
29 min
S4 E4: Meeting our Edges
Ann and Kim explore the discomfort and beauty of encountering our personal edges—the moments when we feel completely full, stretched to capacity, and perhaps at the limits of our capabilities. Rather than seeing these edges as boundaries signalling failure or limitation, this episode invites us to reframe them as essential moments for reflection and celebration. Ann and Kim discuss how acknowledging our edges can provide crucial insights, guiding us to pause, look back, and appreciate just how far we've come. They also reflect on how these seemingly uncomfortable moments can direct us forward—helping us reassess our direction, pace, and the company we keep along our journey. Ultimately, this conversation highlights that meeting our edges isn't about stopping but about honouring growth, savouring survival, and embracing the rhythmic waves of life's natural momentum.
Jun 20, 2025
23 min
S4 E5: Leadership that Answers the Call of a Country
How do you lift people to their greatest potential when your country has a legacy of authoritarian leadership that has kept people's identities and their value in small boxes? Nkululeko Dwight Sibiya and Sifiso Ripinga are doing just this in Gauteng, South Africa. They join Ann and Kim to share their remarkable adventure into a new definition of leadership at their company, TC&HS, one that keeps the spirit of Africa and Ubuntu - 'I am because you are'. Hear about their journey into leadership, why they actively don't have a retention plan for their staff and how they keep the collective goal of uplifting communities at the heart of their commercial business instead of shareholder profits. In our opinion, if you are looking to restore your faith in humanity, this is a good place to start.
Jun 19, 2025
42 min
S4 E3: The Power of Spaciousness: A Conversation with Noella Moshi
In this deeply grounding episode, we’re joined by the luminous Noella Moshi—consultant, TEDx speaker, and all-round dynamic and compassionate catalyst for change in the world of leadership and impact. Together, we explore the evolution from overextension to spaciousness, from identity shaped by others to a life built on integrity and intention.Noella shares her journey of partnering with visionary leaders, the shadow side of high-achievement, the quiet wisdom of her “older woman” archetype, and what it truly means to create impact without burnout. We talk about motherhood, inner critics, nervous systems, and the radical act of self-compassion. Expect real talk, poetic insight, and a few goosebumps.A must-listen for anyone feeling the pull toward doing life and work differently.Find more of Noella’s work at noellamoshi.com
Apr 9, 2025
48 min
S4 E2: It Was There All Along: A Conversation with Sarah Pritzl
This week, we’re joined by Sarah Pritzl — ideas coach, founder of Anomaly, and a quietly joyful force in the world of creativity.Together we explore what it means to live and work from a Nervous System-First perspective - where ideas aren’t just fleeting thoughts, but living entities we’re in relationship with. Sarah invites us into a space where thinking meets feeling, where effort meets play, and where creativity becomes a collaborative dance between self, body, and idea.We talk about connection, abundance, and the gentle art of listening - to ourselves, to each other, and to the ideas that come knocking.#Workplace #Personal #Ideas #CreativeProcess #BodyLedLeadership #ConnectedNotCompetitive
Apr 1, 2025
51 min
S4 E1: The Word Was Energy
We’re back with Season 4! And in this opening episode, we’re talking about energy. We reflect on the energy behind The View Looks Good - how it began as a voice for our hearts, and became a shared space to explore a more soulful, human way of living and working. We talk about the kind of energy that moves us - the pull of purpose, the power of speaking up, and the charge of an idea that’s bigger than us. This isn’t about pushing harder - it’s about noticing what fuels us, what stirs us, and learning how to channel that in a way that feels sustainable, kind, and true.
Mar 25, 2025
23 min
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