In this episode, Ann and Kim place money on the table — not as a problem to solve, but as a relationship to notice. What begins as a conversation about discomfort, avoidance, and judgement slowly opens into something softer: a sense that money can be met with curiosity, connection, and even care.

Together, they explore how many of us spend years out of relationship with money — ignoring it, resenting it, fearing it, or handing responsibility to someone else. Through a nervous system–first lens, they name the familiar patterns that surface around finances: the rising urgency, the tight control, the distance, the shutdown, the freeze, and the inner critic who narrates all of it.

As Kim shares a recent insight — imagining what it might look like to mother money, Ann shares how this has led to something shifting for her.

The episode covers:

• How sympathetic, dorsal, and freeze responses often shape our behaviours with money

• The beliefs we carry from family, culture, and past experiences

• The surprising relief that emerges when we simply acknowledge, “I will be okay”

• The link between money and self-worth, especially when it comes to spending on our own wellbeing

• The courage it takes to name a need and ask for what supports us

• How playfulness, spaciousness, and a sense of “enoughness” become available when we reconnect

• Why the amount of money we have is rarely the real issue — it’s the relationship that creates safety or strain

This conversation doesn’t offer a formula or a promise of abundance. Instead, it offers something far more honest and nourishing: an invitation to come into relationship with money in a way that honours your body, your capacity, and your lived experience.

By the end, we hope money feels less like a threat or a mystery, and more like another place where connection, care, and growth are possible.