The Underdog Physician Podcast
The Underdog Physician Podcast
The Underdog Physician
The Underdog Physician podcast is for pre-med students, medical students, residents, and attendings who feel like they’re underdogs. I am a physician practicing in the US, hosting this podcast to be a source of inspiration for those willing to embrace their challenges and beat the odds no matter where they are in their entrepreneurial or academic journey. I will be discussing physician entrepreneurship and sharing the journeys of those who aspired to serve society in unique and creative ways. Listen as I interview amazing physicians who overcame great odds and are now doing amazing work.
Dr. Minal Shah on Hospital Medicine, Clinical Informatics, and Building a Virtual Care Model
On the Underdog Physician podcast, hospitalist and host interviews Dr. Minal Shah, medical director of virtual care at CommonSpirit Health’s Mountain region and an informaticist on the CommonSpirit national team. Shah shares how early exposure to medicine led her to Baylor College of Medicine for residency and chief residency, why she chose hospital medicine for its acuity, variety, and shift flexibility, and how a 2021 Stanford AI in Healthcare conference sparked her transition into digital health. She discusses ways to build informatics skills, the importance of physician involvement in tool development, and how AI such as ambient scribes can reduce EHR burden while raising concerns about over-reliance. She outlines virtual hospitalist care models, emphasizes change management and clinician adoption challenges, highlights mentorship, recommends Designing Your Life, and describes her work on large-scale EHR implementation and an ideal interoperable, insight-driven EHR.00:00 Meet Dr Minal Shah00:54 Early Path to Medicine02:38 Why Hospital Medicine03:57 AI Conference Turning Point04:53 Building Informatics Skills07:38 AI and Patient Connection11:31 Virtual Care Leadership13:53 What Clinical Informatics Is18:04 Virtual Hospitalist Models20:53 Lessons Across Health Systems23:00 Mentors and Career Design29:14 Weekly Workflow and Travel30:24 Legacy and Ideal EHR33:23 Closing Thanks
May 11
33 min
Julio G. Martinez-Clark on BioAccess and Accelerating First-in-Human Clinical Trials Globally
On the Underdog Physician Podcast, Anish interviews Julio G. Martinez-Clark, CEO of BioAccess, about his path from electrical engineering in Colombia and an MBA in Boston to building a contract research organization focused on medtech first-in-human and early-phase OUS trials. He explains how his brother Pedro’s work revealed major U.S. barriers—IRB delays, FDA uncertainty, investigator access, patient recruitment, and high costs—driving startups overseas, and how BioAccess professionalized trials in Latin America, growing to ~40 employees and expanding to Australia, Eastern Europe, and biopharma. Julio shares how the pandemic forced remote proctoring with OR cameras and iPads, enabling 33 procedures and Zoom-based consent. He discusses why independent hospitals and patient access dynamics speed trials in Latin America, early regulatory confusion in Colombia that led BioAccess to push legal changes, team-building lessons, bootstrapping vs fundraising, launching and rebranding his podcast to Global Trial Accelerators, and his legacy goal of maximizing human impact, including updating Colombia’s clinical research law.00:00 Welcome and Guest Intro00:41 Julio’s Origin Story02:59 BioAccess Is Born05:02 Scaling Across Regions05:43 Pandemic Trial Reinvention08:42 Why LatAm Moves Faster12:12 Regulatory Roadblocks14:26 Building a Winning Team17:13 Bootstrapping and Funding19:14 Launching the Podcast22:37 LinkedIn as Growth Engine25:17 Life, Travel, Balance27:29 Legacy and Law Reform29:53 Closing Thanks
May 6
30 min
Dolores Hirschmann on Clarity, Scaling Responsibly, and Speaking to Grow Your Business
In this episode, we interview Dolores Hirschmann, a fractional CMO, TEDx organizer, and founder of Masters in Clarity, about her unconventional path from Buenos Aires to building and scaling businesses in the U.S. She recounts early ventures, directing an early online learning platform for a nonprofit, launching a clothing company with low-income women in Argentina, and running an afterschool language program partnered with Rosetta Stone. Dolores shares lessons from rapid growth while working with Grant Cardone’s 10X community, emphasizing sustainable scaling, strong teams, SOPs, and executing consistent marketing rather than chasing trends. She explains Masters in Clarity’s approach to building marketing systems, back-office processes, and signature talks to drive leads and conversions, and defines clarity as prioritizing and taking action to reveal next steps. She discusses TEDx events, finding mentors, strategic partnerships for funding, her four-day workweek, and her legacy goal of helping small businesses grow and become transferable or sellable.00:00 Welcome and Guest Intro00:53 Dolores Origin Story01:36 Early Digital Marketing02:12 First Online Learning03:35 Manifesting the Future05:26 First Ventures and Lessons08:27 Scaling with Grant Cardone10:25 Masters in Clarity Explained12:33 What Clarity Means15:16 Fractional CMO Framework16:39 Building a Loyal Team17:55 Underrated Growth Levers18:48 Funding and Partnerships20:25 Inside TEDx Organizing21:58 Setbacks and Reinvention23:46 Mentors and Top Events25:28 Work Life Balance26:28 Advice Legacy and Wrap
Apr 28
27 min
Dr. Tarul Kode: Building at the Intersection of Biotech, Philanthropy, and Patient Impact
In this Underdog Physician podcast episode, PharmD and healthcare executive Dr. Tarul Kode shares her career path from an accelerated pharmacy doctorate at the University of the Pacific to over 20 years in managed care and PBMs, including 15 years at MedImpact in clinical executive and account leadership roles. After completing a Harvard global healthcare leadership program, she pivoted into startups as chief of staff to a virtual primary care CEO, then navigated layoffs when the company failed to raise a Series A amid personal challenges. She built a consulting practice and expanded advisory work with Techstars and Remedy. Tarul describes her venture capital education, joining Loud Collective as a venture partner raising a $175M healthcare fund with partners including Persephoni Bio, while discussing funding fit, scalable growth, responsible AI, inclusion barriers, mentorship, parenting, and a service-driven legacy.00:00 Welcome and Guest Intro01:02 Origin Story and Pharmacy Path02:20 Managed Care and PBM Career03:49 Leadership Coaching and Harvard04:58 Leap Into Startups05:51 Startup Culture Fit06:56 Advising Clinicians in Startups08:24 Setbacks and Resilience09:36 Consulting and Advisory Launchpad10:57 Calibrate Lessons and Integrity11:47 Entering Venture Capital12:34 Loud Collective Thesis13:45 Board Work and Co-Founder Role14:59 How VCs Evaluate Startups17:22 Funding Fit and Diligence18:22 AI and Responsible Scaling19:14 Barriers as Woman of Color22:51 2025 BLOC BLOC100 Most Impactful Women of Color and Allies in biopharma, healthcare, and life sciences.24:29 Mentorship and Executive Presence27:37 Mindset for Uncertainty30:01 Work Life Balance as Single Parent31:31 Legacy and Closing
Apr 20
33 min
Clint Harris: From Cardiac Medical Sales to Self-Storage Syndications and Time Freedom
On the Underdog Physician Podcast, Clint Harris describes moving from 16 years in cardiac device medical sales—implanting pacemakers and defibrillators with heavy call, travel, and burnout—to building a real estate career focused on time, location, and financial independence. After starting with single-family and small multifamily, he scaled beach short-term rentals to 14 units, then realized the model still left him “on call,” leading him to build a property management company and pivot to passive strategies. He explains how syndication lets busy professionals contribute capital while operators provide time and experience, and details Nomad Capital’s approach of converting vacant big-box retail (e.g., a Kmart bought for $1.5M with $2.5M rehab, later appraising at $9M) into climate-controlled self-storage across the Southeast, now totaling $150M AUM with goals of $500M in five years and $1B in ten. Clint outlines why he prefers storage (sticky tenants, month-to-month pricing, fewer operational headaches), the long lease-up timeline risk, industry consolidation, the importance of location and feasibility studies, team-building principles, and his personal focus on family time and building a legacy centered on character and purpose rather than money.00:00 Welcome and Guest Intro00:55 From Pre Med to Cardiac Sales01:57 Why Real Estate Became Plan B03:18 Airbnb Success and Burnout05:17 Buying Back Time with Partners06:16 First Kmart Storage Conversion06:50 Syndication Explained for Docs08:27 Leaving Medical Sales for Nomad10:59 Why Self Storage Wins for Him14:53 Value Add Model and Tax Benefits16:23 Demand Drivers and Customer Trends18:15 Risks and Economic Headwinds19:46 Where Storage Is Heading Next20:50 Long Term Investing Mindset23:17 Building the Right Team25:54 Raising Capital and Track Record28:19 Setbacks and Key Lessons Learned30:15 Day to Day Schedule and Family33:04 Legacy and Closing Thoughts
Apr 12
35 min
Dr. Chiagozie Fawole: From Pediatric Anesthesia to Real Estate, Business Acquisitions, and AI-Driven Wealth for Physicians
On the Underdog Physician Podcast, host Anish interviews Dr. Chiagozie Fawole, a Johns Hopkins–trained pediatric anesthesiologist, real estate investor, and founder of Savvy Docs, about building wealth outside medicine through real estate and business acquisitions. Born and raised in Nigeria, she moved to the U.S. at 16, studied at Howard, attended Johns Hopkins for medical school, initially pursued neurosurgery but did not match, and chose anesthesia for a better lifestyle. She shares her first entrepreneurial experience—a long-distance house flip during residency that lost $10,000 due largely to not staging—then explains moving into multifamily syndication, BRRRR duplexes in Syracuse, and a 2021 pivot to short-term rentals. She discusses shifting focus to acquiring “boring” cash-flowing businesses using SBA financing, her acquisition buy box (≥$1M revenue, ≥10 employees, 5–10+ years old, strong leadership bench), and using AI to improve operations, plus how family support, delegation, and automation help her manage time.00:00 Meet Dr. Chiagozie Fawole00:51 From Nigeria to Hopkins01:32 Finding Anesthesia02:42 Lifestyle by Design03:52 First Real Estate Flip06:12 Losing 10K Lessons07:35 Scaling to Multifamily08:37 Syndication Mindset10:51 BRRRR to Short Term11:34 Why Real Estate Focus13:31 Pivot to Acquisitions15:58 Buy Box Criteria18:26 AI and Future Proofing19:58 Team and Automation22:04 Savvy Docs Mission23:42 Work Life Counterbalance25:54 Books and Mindset26:13 Wealthier Doctors Better Care26:57 Closing Thoughts
Mar 28
27 min
From Burnout to Sustainable Wellbeing: Dr. Amna Shabbir on Perfectionism, and Empowering Early-Career Physicians
On the Underdog Physician podcast, Dr. Amna Shabbir— board-certified internal medicine and geriatrics physician, speaker, coach, and host of Success Reimagined—shares how pandemic stress, added family responsibilities, and severe postpartum depression led her to reframe her career, pursue a geriatrics fellowship as a healing reset, and step away from core academia to part-time post-acute/long-term care. She distinguishes moral injury from burnout as cumulative distress. She discusses perfectionism versus healthy striving, emphasizing intrinsic motivation, learning to fail, and risk tolerance for entrepreneurship. Amna describes the Early Career Physician Institute’s coaching, advocacy, and organizational cohorts focused on boundaries, communication, confidence, negotiation, and retention, and notes AI is a tool whose impact depends on intent and physician empowerment. She is also writing a book on perfectionism and emphasizes seasonality over “balance,” rest, non-negotiables, and rejecting narratives that people are broken.00:00 Meet Dr. Amna Shabbir00:46 Burnout After Residency02:17 Geriatrics And Reframing03:37 Coaching Roots And Support05:41 Moral Injury Explained07:09 Perfectionism And Failure10:30 Early Career Institute Mission13:43 Coaching Formats And Results16:44 Identity Beyond The White Coat20:44 AI And Physician Empowerment22:41 Writing A Book On Perfectionism23:58 Ditching Balance For Seasons26:36 Legacy And How To Connect27:55 Final Thanks And Resources
Mar 24
28 min
From ER to Venture Capital: Dr. Vipul Kella on Clinical Value, Fundraising, and Health Tech Investing
On the Underdog Physician Podcast, ER physician, chief medical officer, and FI Cap Fund general partner Dr. Vipul Kella shares how watching “ER” and rotating in inner-city Detroit drew him to emergency medicine, and how frustration with being downstream of innovation, corporatization, and loss of autonomy pushed him toward startups and venture capital. He explains that clinical experience—not an MBA—is the primary differentiator for physicians in VC and advises entrepreneurs to start before conditions are perfect, think beyond patient care to all stakeholders, and build networks with a non-transactional mindset. Vipul describes a GP’s work as mainly fundraising, sourcing and diligence on early-stage health tech deals, and building a clinician-driven LP network to accelerate adoption. He discusses AI opportunities in admin workflows, clinical decision support, wearables, digital biomarkers, and precision medicine, outlines startup evaluation and timing for VC funding, warns about equity-only advisory roles, and shares time-management and health priorities.00:00 Welcome and Guest Intro00:25 Origin Story to ER01:26 Why Pivot to VC02:59 MBA and Real Value06:16 Startup Lessons Learned07:31 Networking and Reciprocity10:52 Life as a VC Partner13:03 Physician LP Model14:51 AI and Future Healthcare17:21 Longevity Hype Reality19:02 How VCs Evaluate Startups22:07 When to Raise VC24:41 Mentors and Career Paths27:23 Advisory Equity Risks30:24 Time Management Balance32:19 Mission and Closing
Mar 18
34 min
From Touring Musician to Health Optimization Coach: Jared Fischer on Nutrition, Strength, and Building an Online Coaching Business
On the Underdog Physician podcast, Anish interviews Jared Fischer, founder and CEO of Healthimize, a certified health optimization coach who blends 25 years as a touring percussionist with integrated nutrition, biohacking, and strength training to help high performers beat burnout. Jared shares his journey from a farm upbringing and years of partying as a musician to sobriety after his mother’s death and COVID, followed by a fitness transformation that led him to earn integrative nutrition and NASM personal training certifications and go fully online. He outlines his Health Optimize blueprint pillars: a nutritional reset featuring a 24-hour fast, 10-day reset, whole foods and macro tracking; and a strength/movement accelerator with phased programs adaptable to limited resources, including 15-minute workouts and walking. He discusses green tea, whey protein, creatine, program durations, bootstrapping and mentorship for marketing/sales, and his vision for AI in healthcare plus corporate wellness plans to reduce insurance premiums00:00 Welcome and Guest Intro01:07 What Health Optimization Means02:07 From Farm to Rock Bottom03:54 Recovery and New Purpose06:14 Healthimize Coaching Blueprint06:35 Nutrition Reset and Tracking08:10 Strength Training That Fits10:06 15 Minute Workouts and Walking12:07 Supplements Green Tea Creatine13:47 Program Length and Habits15:11 Building an Online Coaching Startup17:49 Mentorship Marketing and Sales19:10 Bootstrapping and Reinvesting20:36 Future of AI and Biohacking23:09 Legacy and Corporate Wellness24:53 Final Thanks and Wrap Up
Mar 11
25 min
David Kaminski on Healthcare SEO: Winning Google Maps, “Near Me” Searches, and Consistent Content
On the Underdog Physician Podcast, we interview healthcare SEO strategist David Kaminski, founder of Collaborate Pros, about helping dentists, med spas, podiatrists, and physicians generate patients through Google Maps and organic search. David shares his origin story from building a multimillion-dollar window cleaning business without paid ads by focusing on free Google traffic, and explains SEO as placing the right search terms (especially high-intent “near me” queries) in website and Google Business Profile content. He highlights common mistakes like inconsistency in Google Business activity and blogging, discusses using AI-assisted blog writing with human editing plus images, links, and videos, and outlines his company’s automations, interlinking strategies, and fit criteria. He also covers KPI tracking, team incentives, and his goal of helping business owners grow.00:00 Podcast Welcome01:21 David Origin Story01:49 Free Google Traffic03:38 Tech Roots and College04:38 Why Window Cleaning05:37 Delegation and Incentives08:32 Launching Collaborate Pros09:57 SEO Basics Explained11:04 Google Profile Consistency12:59 AI Blog Posts and Ranking15:36 Automation Marketing Stack16:42 Homepage SEO Interlinking17:38 Industry Collaboration Links18:16 Pricing And ROI Proof19:24 Best Fit Clients20:00 How Long It Takes21:07 Remote Practices And Maps22:02 Transactional Search Intent23:52 Beating Big Competitors25:13 KPI Tracking And Branding27:00 Work Life And Habits28:39 Weekly KPI Rhythm Traction29:26 Legacy And Wrap Up
Mar 3
30 min
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