The Nine Design
The Nine Design
The Nine Design
Join a coach and a creative as they explore the nine ways we are designed to reflect the Original.
Looking Back, Moving Forward: Closing The Nine Design Journey
In this final episode of The Nine Design, hosts Seth and Sarina reflect on their journey through five seasons of exploring the Enneagram and its impact on personal growth, mental health, and spirituality. They discuss highlights from the season, insights gained from special guests, and practical tools for wholistic wellbeing. The conversation emphasises the importance of reflection, curiosity, and kindness in understanding oneself and others, while also looking back at the overarching themes of the podcast and the transformative power of the Enneagram as a tool for growth.-Links-Enneagram Coaching & Spiritual Direction:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠reflecttheoriginal.au⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Buy Me a Coffee- Seth's page for updates and information: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠buymeacoffee.com/Seth.creator⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Barefoot Bros Music⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - Available on Spotify and other platforms.The Nine Design Enneagram T-shirts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠4th Seed Designs⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠- Socials - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook
Jan 28
43 min
How ADHD Shows Up in Different Personality Types: Part 2 with Nate McCord
In Part 2 of our conversation with Nate McCord, we go around the full Enneagram circle exploring how ADHD uniquely shows up in each type.From perfectionism and procrastination to emotional flooding, rumination, hyperfocus and creativity, Nate unpacks how ADHD often amplifies what’s already happening in our personality - for better and for worse.This episode is packed with practical insight, compassion, and hope for anyone navigating ADHD, supporting someone who is, or wanting deeper self-understanding through the Enneagram.If you haven’t listened to Part 1 yet, we recommend starting here-Links-Nate McCordNate McCord Coaching: ⁠https://natemccordcoaching.com⁠ ADD Coach Academy (ADCA): ⁠https://addca.com⁠Enneagram Coaching & Spiritual Direction:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠reflecttheoriginal.au⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Buy Me a Coffee- Seth's page for updates and information: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠buymeacoffee.com/Seth.creator⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Barefoot Bros Music⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - Available on Spotify and other platforms.The Nine Design Enneagram T-shirts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠4th Seed Designs⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠- Socials - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook
Jan 21
40 min
From Shame to Self-Acceptance: ADHD, the Enneagram & Emotional Resilience with Nate McCord
In this episode of The Nine Design, Sarina and Seth are joined by ADHD coach, Enneagram practitioner, and neurodiversity advocate Nate McCord for a rich and compassionate conversation about the ADHD brain.Nate shares his own journey of late diagnosis, shame, and self-understanding, and helps us unpack the difference between neurodivergence and mental health. We explore executive function, dopamine regulation, emotional resilience, and how ADHD can show up differently across the Enneagram types—especially through the lens of the Head Centre.This episode is especially meaningful for parents, caregivers, leaders, and anyone navigating ADHD, anxiety, or a highly self-critical inner world.-Links-Nate McCordNate McCord Coaching: https://natemccordcoaching.com ADD Coach Academy (ADCA): https://addca.comEnneagram Coaching & Spiritual Direction:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠reflecttheoriginal.au⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Buy Me a Coffee- Seth's page for updates and information: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠buymeacoffee.com/Seth.creator⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Barefoot Bros Music⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - Available on Spotify and other platforms.The Nine Design Enneagram T-shirts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠4th Seed Designs⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠- Socials - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook
Jan 13
34 min
Leading with a Spicy Brain: Neurodiversity, Burnout, & Psychological Safety with Kathryn Martens
Sarina and Seth sit down with leadership coach and neuro-affirming practitioner Kathryn Martens, founder of Release Leadership. Kathryn shares her own recent ADHD diagnosis, her journey supporting neurodivergent leaders, and why traditional leadership models often fail those with “spicy brains.”We talk about the rise in global neurodivergence awareness, the difference between neurodivergence and mental health, and why psychological safety is now legally mandated for Australian workplaces. Kathryn also explores how leaders can integrate head, heart and body intelligence, avoid burnout, and create healthier, more human work cultures.If you're a leader, neurodivergent, parenting kids with unique wiring, or simply curious about how different brains experience the world, this conversation is full of clarity, compassion, and practical wisdom.-Links-Kathryn MartensRelease LeadershipInstagramFacebookLinkedInBook a complimentary call with Kathryn: https://www.releaseleadership.au/booking-calendar/meeting-or-session-with-kathrynEnneagram Coaching & Spiritual Direction:⁠⁠⁠⁠reflecttheoriginal.au⁠⁠⁠⁠Buy Me a Coffee- Seth's page for updates and information: ⁠⁠⁠⁠buymeacoffee.com/Seth.creator⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Barefoot Bros Music⁠⁠⁠⁠ - Available on Spotify and other platforms.The Nine Design Enneagram T-shirts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠4th Seed Designs⁠⁠⁠⁠- Socials - ⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook
Dec 16, 2025
50 min
Jeff Cook on Mental Health, Meaning Making, and Why Time Orientation Shapes Every Enneagram Type
In this rich and thoughtful conversation, Sarina sits down with philosopher, author, and co-host of the Around the Circle podcast, Jeff Cook, to explore one of the most overlooked layers of the Enneagram: time orientation.Jeff unpacks how each type takes in the world and responds to it through the past, present, or future - shaping everything from our anxieties to our relational patterns. We talk about the Head Centre, mental health, meaning-making, parenting through the lens of type, and what happens when philosophy, faith, and the Enneagram collide.- Links -Jeff Cook⁠Around the Circle - Patreon⁠Instagram⁠Around the Circle - an Enneagram BookEnneagram Coaching & Spiritual Direction:⁠⁠⁠reflecttheoriginal.au⁠⁠⁠Buy Me a Coffee- Seth's page for updates and information: ⁠⁠⁠buymeacoffee.com/Seth.creator⁠⁠⁠⁠Barefoot Bros Music⁠⁠⁠ - Available on Spotify and other platforms.The Nine Design Enneagram T-shirts: ⁠⁠⁠4th Seed Designs⁠⁠⁠- Socials - ⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook
Dec 9, 2025
50 min
Waiting in the In-Between: Liminal Spaces & the Head Centre with Bruce Hulme
What happens when life is “betwixt and in-between”? In this episode, Seth and Sarina talk with  freelance wisdom educator, pastoral supervisor, spiritual director, and Enneagram Type Five Dr Bruce Hulme about liminal spaces, reflective practice, and the Head Centre.Bruce shares his journey through redundancy, anxiety, and deep transition, and how images like the labyrinth and chrysalis helped him discover contemplative friendship with God.They unpack:Why “talking the walk” (reflective practice) mattersHow Head Centre types move from calculation to curiosityGentle invitations for each Enneagram type in liminal seasons- Links -Bruce Hulme's Socials LinkedInFacebookSpotifyInstagramtalkingthewalk.com.auEnneagram Coaching & Spiritual Direction:⁠⁠reflecttheoriginal.au⁠⁠Buy Me a Coffee- Seth's page for updates and information: ⁠⁠buymeacoffee.com/Seth.creator⁠⁠Barefoot Bros Music⁠⁠ - Available on Spotify and other platforms.The Nine Design Enneagram T-shirts: ⁠⁠4th Seed Designs⁠⁠- Socials - ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠Facebook
Dec 2, 2025
51 min
Bonus: Narcissism and the 9 Enneagram Types with Chuck DeGroat
This special bonus episode features Christian psychologist Chuck DeGroat and packs a lot into just 12 minutes:A brief, clear explanation of narcissismA flyover of how narcissism shows up across all nine Enneagram typesand what Chuck has learned about narcissism since publishing When Narcissism Comes to Church (2020)
Nov 25, 2025
12 min
Unmasking Self-Care: Chuck DeGroat on Healing and Homecoming
What does true self-care look like beneath the surface?In this conversation with Professor, Author, Therapist, and Spiritual Director Chuck DeGroat, we explore what lies beyond the quick fixes and polished versions of self-care. Chuck invites us into a deeper understanding of healing - one that begins with honesty, self-compassion, and the courage to face what’s within.Together, we talk about the journey of coming home to God, integrating faith and psychology, and why spiritual formation is as much about unlearning old patterns as it is about growth.If you’re in a hard season, hitting a wall, or walking through a dark night of the soul, Chuck offers a gentle invitation - to move from curiosity to connection, and to discover God’s kindness in the midst of it all.- Links -Book - Healing What's Within on Amazonchuckdegroat.netEnneagram Coaching & Spiritual Direction:⁠reflecttheoriginal.au⁠Buy Me a Coffee- Seth's page for updates and information: ⁠buymeacoffee.com/Seth.creator⁠⁠Barefoot Bros Music⁠ - Available on Spotify and other platforms.The Nine Design Enneagram T-shirts: ⁠4th Seed Designs⁠- Socials - ⁠Instagram⁠⁠Facebook
Nov 18, 2025
36 min
Mind Map: How Our Thinking Shapes Our Personality
Ever wonder what’s really going on in your head? In this Season 5 premier episode, hosts Seth and Sarina dive into the Enneagram’s Head Centre - home to Types 5, 6, and 7. They reflect on their journey through five seasons of the podcast and explore how the thinking centre shapes our anticipation, planning, and search for security. From underlying fears to personal growth, they discuss how head types navigate life, relationships, and mental health. Tune in for insights on the balance, self-awareness, and wisdom that emerge when we embrace the gifts of the Head Centre.- Links -Enneagram Coaching & Spiritual Direction:reflecttheoriginal.auBuy Me a Coffee- Seth's page for updates and information: buymeacoffee.com/Seth.creatorBarefoot Bros Music - Available on Spotify and other platforms.The Nine Design Enneagram T-shirts: 4th Seed Designs- Socials - InstagramFacebook
Nov 11, 2025
53 min
Live Coaching Session
Have you have ever wondered what Enneagram coaching is like? Sarina gives us a special window into her enneagram coaching practice as she guides Seth through exploring Type 3's pathway to personal growth. You won't want to miss this real and revealing episode. ⁠ ⁠ Sarina Sherring is the founder and director of Reflect the Original, a Coaching and Soul Care business that offers typing assessments, individual, group, couples, and team coaching as well as team building workshops and spiritual retreats. To book your FREE 30 minute discovery call and to find out more click the link below. ⁠ - Links -  Podcast: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Nine Design⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Enneagram Coaching & Soul Care: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Reflect the Original⁠ Title music and breathers created by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Barefoot Bros⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - Socials -  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook
Feb 13, 2024
47 min
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