
In this week’s solo roundup, Dan Miller deconstructs a series of aggressive maneuvers by the 47th administration designed to codify Christian nationalism into federal policy. The centerpiece is the newly released report from the Anti-Christian Bias Task Force, an entity Dan argues serves less as a shield for religious freedom and more as a sword against civil rights. By framing standard anti-discrimination protections as inherent attacks on the faith, the administration is effectively creating a legal "red meat" pipeline for its base. This ideological shift is mirrored in the judicial branch, where the Supreme Court’s ruling in Louisiana v. Calle effectively "guts" the remains of the Voting Rights Act. Dan traces the lineage of Justice Alito’s "colorblind" rhetoric back to the Roberts Court, highlighting how the judicial insistence on ignoring race is being weaponized to dismantle Black political representation and broader DEI initiatives.
The episode further explores the chilling effect of "MAGA-style" free speech, highlighting the selective weaponization of federal agencies against cultural and political critics. From the FCC’s retaliatory pressure on ABC following a Jimmy Kimmel monologue to the surreal indictment of James Comey over a seashell photo, Miller illustrates a pattern of using law enforcement as a tool for personal grievance. On the border, the administration continues its push for a "White America" through restrictive new visa affirmations and a cynical rebranding of ICE to "NICE"—a move Dan describes as a superficial mask for an agency defined by family separations and systemic harm. However, the episode closes on a note of strategic optimism: as the 2026 midterm elections loom, the GOP’s fixation on cultural grievances over economic affordability suggests a political vulnerability that could shift the national tide.
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May 1
49 min

Despite his promises, Josh Hawley’s vision of masculinity and masculine virtue is not “Christian” in any definable way. But while this may be surprising, given his Christian nationalist credentials, it actually serves the interests of his ideology not to be distinctly Christian? In what senses? What can be gained by ensuring that claims to “Christian masculinity” aren’t actually Christian? Join Dan for this week’s episode as he explains.
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Apr 29
33 min

The repeal of the military’s flu vaccine mandate by Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth might seem like a minor policy shift, but it opens a window into a much larger movement reshaping American politics, religion, and public health. In this episode, we unpack how vaccine hesitancy—once a fringe concern—has merged with evangelical Christian nationalism, “medical freedom” rhetoric, and the post-COVID backlash to government authority. What looks like a simple choice about a seasonal shot is, in reality, part of a decades-long effort to reframe public health as a matter of individual liberty, religious conviction, and resistance to institutional power.
Joined by Dr. Kira Ganga Keefer, an expert on religion and vaccine hesitancy, we explore how this coalition formed, why “mandates” have become the central battleground, and how movements like MAHA and figures like RFK Jr. have accelerated these trends. The conversation also digs into the cultural and theological currents underneath it all—from wellness spirituality and distrust of biomedicine to performances of masculinity and competing ideas of bodily autonomy. The result is a revealing look at how a single Pentagon policy decision reflects a much broader transformation in American life.
Unvaccinated Under God: https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691224664/unvaccinated-under-god?srsltid=AfmBOorYs5jhjmrT_gLbENztNw8pi4t5zgyZ2hc-0BEimx6VccCHznqi
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Apr 27
28 min

In this compelling installment of the Sunday Interview, host Brad Onishi engages in a deep-dive conversation with Dr. Tiffany Townsend, a distinguished psychologist and former Chief Diversity Officer, to discuss her timely new book, Weathering the Storm: Navigating the Anti-Social Justice Wave. The episode traces the trajectory of American DEI efforts from the "radical hope" sparked by Barack Obama’s election to the current systemic dismantling of equity initiatives across the country. Dr. Townsend offers a masterclass in historical context, drawing striking parallels between modern anti-DEI legislation and the "Redemption Playbook" used to roll back civil rights gains following Reconstruction. By reframing DEI as an effort to expand the table rather than limit it, she provides a necessary correction to the weaponized narratives currently dominating the cultural landscape.
Beyond the political analysis, the discussion delves into the psychological toll of navigating spaces where tokenism and stereotypes—which Dr. Townsend famously likens to inescapable "cigarette smoke in a bar"—persist. The conversation moves from the macro-level of institutional violence and intimidation to the micro-level of personal healing, emphasizing that collective solidarity is the only true antidote to depletion. Dr. Townsend concludes with a powerful definition of "Radical Hope": a grounded, strategic persistence that acknowledges the severity of the current storm while drawing strength from the community and history. This episode is an essential toolkit for anyone looking to move past "checking boxes" toward building genuinely inclusive spaces that can withstand the current political climate.
Weathering the Backlash: https://www.broadleafbooks.com/store/product/9798889835097/Weathering-the-Storm
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Apr 27
47 min

Brad Onishi and Dan Miller discuss the Trump DOJ’s indictment of the Southern Poverty Law Center, alleging it defrauded donors by paying informants for access to extremist groups, with charges including wire fraud, bank fraud, conspiracy, and money laundering; they note legal experts’ skepticism, SPLC’s past cooperation with law enforcement, and argue it reflects MAGA hostility and a Project 2025/Project Esther-style push to label opponents “domestic terrorists.” They then cover Virginia voters approving a redistricting measure projected to shift up to four House seats away from the GOP, now temporarily blocked by a judge, and argue Trump’s mid-decade redistricting push is backfiring as blue states respond. Finally, they analyze Palantir’s manifesto-like summary of Alex Karp’s The Technological Republic, criticizing its anti-pluralism, civilizational hierarchy, and alignment with Christian nationalist politics, and close with court actions overturning a federal gender-affirming-care funding ban and a protestor’s case.
00:00 Indicting the SPLC
01:54 Charges Explained
07:22 Why Conservatives Hate SPLC
14:32 Project 2025 Playbook
18:55 Will the Case Stick
25:18 Break and Reset
25:32 Virginia Redistricting Fight
29:57 Gerrymandering and Opposition
32:56 Talarico Fox News Clip
34:42 Comedy Detour Dating Advice
35:55 Virginia Redistricting Fallout
37:11 Hope Amid Gerrymandering
38:10 SPLC Claims Revisited
39:41 Fondue Clip Goes Viral
41:09 Racism Goes Mainstream
45:27 Palantir Tech Fascism
47:39 Religion Means Christianity
51:44 Civilizational Chauvinism
57:53 Anti Pluralism Manifesto
01:02:06 Hope And Sign Off
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Apr 24
1 hr 7 min

Josh Hawley tells us he’s giving us a vision of Christian “manhood.” But as we near the end of his book on the subject, is he? In this episode, Dan argues that there’s actually nothing specifically Christian about Hawley’s account of manhood at all. In fact, he argues, Hawley goes to length NOT to discuss any specifically Christian themes, even when he comes to the chapter on men as “priests?” So what’s going on? Check out this week’s episode to find out!
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Apr 22
35 min

Trump’s 2 Chronicles Reading and the Politics of Christian Nationalism
Brad Onishi discusses an 84-hour marathon Bible reading at the Museum of the Bible tied to U.S. 250th anniversary celebrations, noting that Donald Trump read from the White House rather than attending. He argues it is dangerous that Trump—whom he calls immoral and unfamiliar with scripture—was assigned 2 Chronicles 7:11–22, a passage long used by evangelicals to frame national crisis as divine punishment and to demand repentance, citing examples from Jerry Falwell after 9/11 and a 2 Chronicles prayer at January 6. Onishi walks through the verses to show how they can cast a national leader as a king with a divinely established “royal throne,” linking this to Christian nationalist power politics and pro-Trump messianic imagery. He critiques the spectacle as violating church-state separation and urges leaders to demonstrate civic virtues rather than publicly dictate scripture.
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Apr 21
17 min

In this episode of the Straight White American Jesus Sunday Interview, host Leah Payne speaks with journalist Sam Kestenbaum about his reporting on celebrity pastor culture and the rise of the “hype priest.” The conversation centers on Kestenbaum’s widely discussed profile of Judah Smith, a “pastor-to-the-stars” connected to figures like Justin Bieber, and expands into a broader analysis of how millennial pastors have fused evangelical preaching with aesthetics, branding, and media performance.
Sam Kestenbaum is a journalist who covers religion in America, known for his deeply reported and stylistically distinctive profiles of contemporary spiritual figures. Based in Los Angeles, his work has appeared in The New York Times, Harper’s Magazine, Rolling Stone, and beyond, where he examines the intersections of faith, politics, and culture.
Together, Payne and Kestenbaum explore the Churchome experience in Los Angeles, pop-up worship in rented theaters, a creative-class audience, and a ministry shaped as much by production value and performance as by theology. They discuss how presentation - from clothing to sermon delivery - functions as a form of religious communication, as well as how figures like Judah Smith navigate political polarization by shifting toward a more therapeutic, individualized message. The conversation also maps a wider ecosystem of charismatic influencers, including those who lean more explicitly into conservative politics, and situates today’s media-savvy pastors within a longer lineage of charismatic power brokers shaping American public life.
In This Episode
Sam Kestenbaum’s profile of Judah Smith and the rise of the “hype priest”
The Churchome model: pop-up churches, celebrity culture, and Los Angeles creatives
Aesthetics, authenticity, and performance in contemporary evangelical preaching
The influence of Black Pentecostal styles on white charismatic leaders
Why some celebrity pastors avoid overt political alignment
The next generation: influencers, revival tours, and conservative media ecosystems
Figures like Greg Laurie and Bryce Crawford in the broader charismatic landscape
The enduring influence of leaders like Che Ahn and the question of political power
Links:
Sam Kestenbaum’s website: https://samkestenbaum.com/
“The Hype Priest Who Rode the Bieber Wave: Judah Smith’s message of grace earned him many famous followers. Is he out of step with other Evangelicals?” (Vulture / New York Magazine): https://www.vulture.com/article/judah-smith-church-pastor-justin-bieber.html
“The Demon Slayers: the New Age of American Exorcisms” (on Greg Locke, Harper’s Magazine): https://harpers.org/archive/2024/08/the-demon-slayers-sam-kestenbaum-exorcisms/
“‘I Think All the Christians Get Slaughtered’: Inside the MAGA Road Show Barnstorming America” (on Clay Clark, Rolling Stone): https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/clay-clark-reawaken-america-maga-tour-trump-1234594574/
Find Sam Kestenbaum at https://samkestenbaum.com/
Find Dr. Leah Payne at drleahpayne.com , subscribe on Substack, follow her on most social media platforms at @drleahpayne, listen along at Spirit & Power: Charismatics & Politics in American Life and Rock that Doesn’t Roll: The Story of Christian Rock, and read along: God Gave Rock and Roll to You: A History of Contemporary Christian Music.
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Apr 19
41 min

Religion scholars Brad Onishi and Dan Miller recap a week of conflict in which Pope Leo criticized war and bombing in a statement widely read as aimed at the U.S. approach to Iran, prompting a lengthy Trump Truth Social attack and backlash over an AI image of Trump as Jesus. JD Vance and Speaker Mike Johnson told the Pope to “stay in his lane” and invoked just war theory, leading Miller to explain its criteria and argue the Iran conflict fails them; the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops issued a response defending the Pope’s teaching authority and the church’s just war tradition. The hosts frame the dispute as exposing fissures within MAGA Christian nationalism, discuss claims of nationalism turning the nation and leader into God, and analyze Pete Hegseth’s rhetoric and prayer language as further evidence, alongside GOP figures and media urging the Pope to avoid politics while promoting religion in government.
00:00 Pope Versus Trump
01:07 Why Religion Matters
02:03 Iran War And Distraction
03:22 Papal Statement And Trump Blowup
04:16 AI Jesus Backlash
06:37 JD Vance Enters Fight
09:00 Pope Warns War Profiteers
10:14 Mike Johnson Just War Spin
11:53 Just War Theory Explained
15:58 Bishops Rebuke Vance
18:39 Fissures In Christian Nationalism
21:25 Aquinas And War As Evil
27:14 MAGA Splits And Catholic Voters
29:22 Vance Authority Christianity
32:32 Power Theology And Nationalism
35:33 Vance Versus Just War
37:07 Hegseth Pulp Prayer
38:57 Vengeance Voice Swap
44:35 TPUSA Flop Fallout
47:35 Trump As Messiah
52:27 GOP Tells Pope Quiet
56:21 One Way Christian Nationalism
59:16 Who Counts As Christian
01:03:40 Task Force Irony
01:05:35 Reasons For Hope
01:08:40 Discord Hope Stories
01:08:55 Closing Hope Notes
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Apr 17
1 hr 14 min

What does it mean when cultural and religious conservatives proclaim that they affirm a “culture of life?” We know it means that they oppose abortion and abortion access. But what else does it mean? In this episode, Dan dives in to decode this message to look at the racial, gender, and social positions that are encoded in this seemingly familiar slogan.
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Apr 15
27 min
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