Rowan's Notes
Rowan's Notes
The Rundown AI
Rowan's Notes is a podcast where The Rundown's founder, Rowan Cheung, interviews the people shaping the AI industry — breaking down what’s real vs hype and how to leverage it to get ahead in your life, work, and business.
Demis Hassabis on AGI by 2030, Curing Every Disease, Life After AGI, and More
Demis Hassabis says we’re in the ‘foothills of the singularity’ In this exclusive conversation, Rowan Cheung (@rowancheung) sat down with DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis (@demishassabis) to break down: Why AGI is coming in 2030, plus or minus a yearHow AI will compress drug discovery from 10 years to weeksWhy glasses are the killer app form factor AI was waiting forWhat Demis will work on after AGI (and what's left for human meaning)__ Join our daily AI newsletter: https://www.therundown.ai/subs...
May 26
15 min
Sundar Pichai on Agents Replacing Engineers, Google's Future, AI's Flip Phone Moment, and More
Google just revealed Omni, personalized cross-device intelligence, and Spark agents at I/O 2025. In this exclusive conversation, Rowan Cheung (@rowancheung) sat down with Google CEO Sundar Pichai (@sundarpichai) to break it all down: Why today's AI will look "primitive like a flip phone" in 3 yearsEngineers now becoming agent managers The Omni model: "Nano Banana for video" + the future of contentSundar's advice for young people navigating the AI shift__ Join our daily AI newsletter: ht...
May 21
19 min
Dharmesh Shah on AEO, AI Agents, and the ‘AI App Store’
Being early to SEO helped Dharmesh Shah build HubSpot into a $30B company. Now he's obsessed with something new: AI ranking. It's how to show up when people ask ChatGPT for recommendations instead of Googling. In this conversation, Rowan Cheung (@rowancheung) sat down with HubSpot Founder & CTO Dharmesh Shah (@dharmesh) to unpack: AEO (Answer Engine Optimization): SEO for the AI eraHow to structure content to get cited in AI answersThe hidden risk of low-quality AI contentEffectively us...
Dec 16, 2025
56 min
Demis Hassabis on Gemini 3, Google Antigravity, Medical-grade AI, and more
Google just revealed Gemini 3.0 -- its most intelligent AI model yet with SOTA reasoning and 1501 Elo on the LMArena. In this exclusive conversation, Rowan Cheung (@rowancheung) sat down with Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis (@demishassabis) to unpack: Gemini 3 and Google’s AI strategyGoogle's new Antigravity toolMedical-grade AI and proactive healthcareThe skill of "learning how to learn" __ Join our daily AI newsletter: https://www.therundown.ai/subscribe Learn AI hands-on with our AI U...
Nov 18, 2025
19 min
Sam Altman on Zero-Person AI Companies, Sora, AGI Breakthroughs, and more
OpenAI just unveiled HUGE developer updates at DevDay 2025 - Apps in ChatGPT, Agent Builder, Sora in the API, and Codex updates that can handle day-long tasks. In this exclusive conversation, Rowan Cheung (@rowancheung) sat down with OpenAI CEO Sam Altman (@sama) to unpack: Sam's Sora AI deepfakes going viralZero-person billion dollar companies run by agentsAI starting to make scientific discoveries on Twitter ChatGPT's 800M weekly users and the new distribution platform__ Join our dail...
Oct 7, 2025
30 min
Mark Zuckerberg on AI Glasses, Superintelligence, Neural Control, and More
Meta just unveiled its latest AI glasses at Connect 2025 – including Ray-Ban's with a built-in display, controlled by a band that reads muscle signals. In this exclusive conversation, Rowan Cheung (@rowancheung) sat down with Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg (@zuck) to unpack: The timeline for glasses replacing smartphonesHow the Neural Band will personalize to you over timeBuilding "personal superintelligence" while raising kidsWhy Zuck rebuilt Meta's AI lab within 15 feet of his desk __ Join our ...
Sep 18, 2025
45 min
Demis Hassabis on Curing Diseases with AI, Proactive Agents, AI Relationships, and more
Google just revealed a ton of AI developments at Google I/O 2025 - from AI Mode in Search, VEO 3, proactive agents, Gemini 2.5 upgrades, AI shopping assistants, and more. In this exclusive conversation, Rowan Cheung (@rowancheung) sat down with Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis (@demishassabis) to unpack: -How AI could cure all diseases -Advice to the education system -Relationships and reliance on AI -Are humans at risk of becoming dumber? __ Join our daily AI newsletter: https://www.theru...
May 27, 2025
13 min
Satya Nadella on AI Agents, Rebuilding the Web, the Future of Work, and more
Microsoft just revealed its next big AI bets at Build 2025 - from autonomous coding agents, Copilot Tuning, Windows AI Foundry, and more. In this exclusive conversation, Rowan Cheung (@rowancheung) sat down with Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella (@satyanadella) to unpack: -Microsoft’s vision for the “agentic web” -Why your next job might be AI agent manager -What happens when 95% of code is AI-generated -Where AI agents will create the most value first __ Join our daily AI newsletter: https://www...
May 21, 2025
21 min
Demis Hassabis on Gemini 2.0, Project Astra, Agents, Gaming with Elon, and more
Google just launched Gemini 2.0, Project Astra, and AI agents for gaming & web browsing. Rowan Cheung (@rowancheung) sat down for an exclusive interview with Demis Hassabis, CEO of Google DeepMind (@demishassabis), to discuss the launch, why it matters, and Google’s entry into the AI agent era. __ Join our daily AI newsletter: https://www.therundown.ai/subscribe Learn AI hands-on with our AI University: https://rundown.ai/ai-university/
Dec 11, 2024
13 min
Mustafa Suleyman on Copilot Vision, AI Companions, Infinite Memory, AI Agents, and more
Exclusive: Microsoft just launched Copilot Vision in Edge—the first AI that can navigate the internet with you in real time. Rowan Cheung (@rowancheung) sat down for an exclusive interview with Mustafa Suleyman (@mustafasuleyman), CEO of Microsoft AI, to discuss how it works, infinite memory, AI companions, agents, and more. Find all the details of Copilot Vision on Microsoft’s official announcement blog post. __ Join our daily AI newsletter: https://www.therundown.ai/subscribe Learn AI hand...
Dec 5, 2024
26 min
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