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The Rundown AI
Dharmesh Shah on AEO, AI Agents, and the ‘AI App Store’
56 minutes Posted Dec 16, 2025 at 6:00 pm.
Intro
The AI ranking opportunity (AEO)
How to rank in AI chatbots
Using AI to adapt content for AEO
Training teams on "AI Intuition"
Content moats in the AI-slop era
Dharmesh's new AI agent startup
AI agent monetization strategy
The bottlenecks to autonomous agents
Building teams: humans vs agents
Why Dharmesh still codes as a billionaire
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Being early to SEO helped Dharmesh Shah build HubSpot into a $30B company. Now he's obsessed with something new: AI ranking. It's how to show up when people ask ChatGPT for recommendations instead of Googling. In this conversation, Rowan Cheung (@rowancheung) sat down with HubSpot Founder & CTO Dharmesh Shah (@dharmesh) to unpack: AEO (Answer Engine Optimization): SEO for the AI eraHow to structure content to get cited in AI answersThe hidden risk of low-quality AI contentEffectively us...