
This week on PMP Industry Insiders, Dan and Donnie welcome Finn Forshaw, Strategic Business Manager for Forshaw, to discuss inventory challenges for pest control operators and how to overcome them. Finn covers common pain points — cash being tied up in inventory, shrinkage and waste, and emergency buys due to stockouts — and inventory management strategies. He also explains Forshaw's ForeSight system, including its data visibility and forecasting capabilities.
Guest: Finn Forshaw, Strategic Business Manager, ForshawHosts:Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists: https://pcobookkeepers.com/Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services: https://trianglehomeservices.com/Sponsors:Coalmarch: https://www.coalmarch.com/podcastPestSure: https://www.pestsure.com/Voice for Pest: https://www.voiceforpest.com/podcastForshaw: https://www.forshaw.com/
PestPac by WorkWave: https://www.pestpac.com/pmpindustryinsiders
Peer Groups:https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/peergroups
Insiders Conference:
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Aug 27
35 min

In this episode, Dan and Donnie break down why estate planning matters for pest and lawn business owners. With successful pest control companies potentially valued at 10 to 14 times EBITDA, the business can create a significant estate—and significant tax and succession challenges. The conversation covers federal estate tax exemptions, gifting strategies, revocable and irrevocable trusts, asset protection, probate, and ways business owners can structure their estates to protect their families and preserve the value they've worked so hard to create.
Hosts:Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists: https://pcobookkeepers.com/Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services: https://trianglehomeservices.com/Sponsors:Coalmarch: https://www.coalmarch.com/podcastPestSure: https://www.pestsure.com/Voice for Pest: https://www.voiceforpest.com/podcastForshaw: https://www.forshaw.com/
PestPac by WorkWave: https://www.pestpac.com/pmpindustryinsiders
Peer Groups:https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/peergroups
Insiders Conference:
https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/conference
Aug 20
35 min

This week, Dan and Donnie interview Dean Burnside, owner of Good News Pest Solutions, a faith-based pest control firm in Florida. They discuss Dean's journey to ownership, his decision to operate the business as a platform for ministry, how the company's values integrate into its culture, and the concepts, systems, and primary metric Good News Pest relies on to achieve its goals.
Guest: Dean Burnside, President/Owner, Good News Pest SolutionsHosts:Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists: https://pcobookkeepers.com/Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services: https://trianglehomeservices.com/Sponsors:Coalmarch: https://www.coalmarch.com/podcastPestSure: https://www.pestsure.com/Voice for Pest: https://www.voiceforpest.com/podcastForshaw: https://www.forshaw.com/
PestPac by WorkWave: https://www.pestpac.com/pmpindustryinsiders
Peer Groups:https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/peergroups
Insiders Conference:
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Aug 13
39 min

This week, Dan and Donnie talk with analyst Tim Mulrooney about the current state and future prospects of the pest control industry. Tim shares insights about the long-term strength of the industry and near-term headwinds, such as weather, consumer behavior, and digital marketing costs. He also discusses the K-shaped economy and its potential effects on the industry.
Guest: Tim Mulrooney, Group Head-Global Services, William Blair & Co. Hosts:Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists: https://pcobookkeepers.com/Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services: https://trianglehomeservices.com/Sponsors:Coalmarch: https://www.coalmarch.com/podcastPestSure: https://www.pestsure.com/Voice for Pest: https://www.voiceforpest.com/podcastForshaw: https://www.forshaw.com/
PestPac by WorkWave: https://www.pestpac.com/pmpindustryinsiders
Peer Groups:https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/peergroups
Insiders Conference:
https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/conference
Aug 6
38 min

Welcome to Insiders Rewind — Recapping July
This month, we are looking back to:
#281 - Is Complexity Killing Your Business
#282 - HR Update: Noncompetes, Marijuana, Contractors & I-9s
#283 - Why You Need a CD Playbook in Pest & Lawn
#284 - The Death of Search Engine
A HUGE shout to our sponsors!
Coalmarch: https://www.coalmarch.com/podcast
PestSure: https://www.pestsure.com/
Voice for Pest: https://www.voiceforpest.com/podcast
Forshaw: https://www.forshaw.com/
PestPac by WorkWave: https://www.pestpac.com/pmpindustryinsiders
Peer Groups: https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/peergroups
Insiders Conference: https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/conference
Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists: https://pcobookkeepers.com/
Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services: https://trianglehomeservices.com/
We’d love to hear from you. Drop a comment, leave a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, and connect with us on social media @PMPIndustryInsiders.
Aug 3
18 min

In this episode, Donnie and Dan discuss how the traditional customer journey—web searching, reviewing multiple companies, and contacting businesses directly—is going away due to AI, comparing it to the shift from Yellow Pages to Google. Donnie also does a live demo of an AI agent researching and recommending local services, and he explains how business owners should respond to this shift in consumer behavior.
Hosts:Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists: https://pcobookkeepers.com/Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services: https://trianglehomeservices.com/Sponsors:Coalmarch: https://www.coalmarch.com/podcastPestSure: https://www.pestsure.com/Voice for Pest: https://www.voiceforpest.com/podcastForshaw: https://www.forshaw.com/
PestPac by WorkWave: https://www.pestpac.com/pmpindustryinsiders
Peer Groups:https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/peergroups
Insiders Conference:
https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/conference
Jul 30
38 min

In this episode, Dan and Donnie welcome Margaret Garcia, founder and CEO of Grit PPO, to discuss why every growing company needs a Customer Experience (CX) playbook and actionable steps to create one. Margaret explains why customer service shouldn't rely on tribal knowledge or individual personalities. Successful companies create repeatable systems that ensure every customer receives the same high-quality experience.
Guest: Margaret Garcia, Founder & CEO, Grit PPOHosts:Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists: https://pcobookkeepers.com/Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services: https://trianglehomeservices.com/Sponsors:Coalmarch: https://www.coalmarch.com/podcastPestSure: https://www.pestsure.com/Voice for Pest: https://www.voiceforpest.com/podcastForshaw: https://www.forshaw.com/
PestPac by WorkWave: https://www.pestpac.com/pmpindustryinsiders
Peer Groups:https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/peergroups
Insiders Conference:
https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/conference
Jul 23
37 min

In this episode, HR expert Jean Seawright joins Donnie Shelton and Dan Gordon to break down the biggest employment issues affecting pest control companies today.
Jean explains what the FTC's recent action against Rollins means for non-compete agreements and why now is the time to review your employment contracts. She also covers the evolving workplace implications of medical marijuana, what employers need to know about reasonable accommodations, and why documenting impairment—not assumptions—has become increasingly important. Finally, Jean shares the latest guidance on independent contractor classification and an important warning about new I-9 enforcement standards.
Guest: Jean Seawright, HR Update: Noncompetes, Marijuana, Contractors & I-9sHosts:Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists: https://pcobookkeepers.com/Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services: https://trianglehomeservices.com/Sponsors:Coalmarch: https://www.coalmarch.com/podcastPestSure: https://www.pestsure.com/Voice for Pest: https://www.voiceforpest.com/podcastForshaw: https://www.forshaw.com/
PestPac by WorkWave: https://www.pestpac.com/pmpindustryinsiders
Peer Groups:https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/peergroups
Insiders Conference:
https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/conference
Jul 16
44 min

In this episode of the PMP Industry Insiders Podcast, Donnie and Dan tackle a challenge nearly every pest control and lawn care company faces: the slow creep of unnecessary complexity. From software overload and endless KPIs to outdated service offerings, bloated processes, and unnecessary meetings, they explore why business systems fail when execution breaks down and how pest and lawn companies can avoid this trap.
Hosts:Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A SpecialistsDonnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services
Sponsors: Coalmarch: https://www.coalmarch.com/podcast
PestSure: https://www.pestsure.com/
Voice for Pest: https://www.voiceforpest.com/podcast
Forshaw: https://www.forshaw.com/
Peer Groups: https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/peergroups
Insiders Conference: https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/conference
Jul 9
48 min

🎙️ Welcome to Insiders Rewind — Recapping June.
This month, we are looking back to:
Ep. 277 - What's happening with Rollins & What It Means for Pest Control M&A
Ep. 278 - Gamifying Growth: Using Data to Help Your Team Perform
Ep. 279 - The New Rules of Pest Control Growth with Jonas Olson
Ep. 280 - Avoid These Hidden Risks in Pest Control
A HUGE shout to our sponsors!
Coalmarch: https://www.coalmarch.com/podcast
PestSure: https://www.pestsure.com/
Voice for Pest: https://www.voiceforpest.com/podcast
Forshaw: https://www.forshaw.com/
Peer Groups: https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/peergroups
Insiders Conference: https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/conference
Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists: https://pcobookkeepers.com/
Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services: https://trianglehomeservices.com/
We’d love to hear from you. Drop a comment, leave a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, and connect with us on social media @PMPIndustryInsiders.
Jul 6
13 min
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