
This week, Dan and Donnie discuss how a pest or lawn company's profits can be reflected in P&L statements while cash is tied up in accounts receivable, vehicle financing, and other balance sheet items. They cover key strategies for managing cash flow, including creating weekly forecasts, being disciplined about debt usage, and paying yourself from cash rather than profit. Finally, they explain that cash is the most critical metric and running out of it will put you out of business immediately.
Hosts:Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists: https://pcobookkeepers.com/Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services: https://trianglehomeservices.com/Sponsors:Coalmarch: https://www.coalmarch.com/podcastPestSure: https://www.pestsure.com/Voice for Pest: https://www.voiceforpest.com/podcastForshaw: https://www.forshaw.com/
PestPac by WorkWave: https://www.pestpac.com/pmpindustryinsiders
Oct 29
36 min

This week, Dan and Donnie explain how two companies can have similar revenue but vastly different economic results. They discuss how pest and lawn owners often overlook inefficiencies while pursuing revenue targets. Additionally, they explore the most important KPIs for profitability and Donnie's recent experience implementing a price increase. Hosts:Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists: https://pcobookkeepers.com/Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services: https://trianglehomeservices.com/Sponsors:Coalmarch: https://www.coalmarch.com/podcastPestSure: https://www.pestsure.com/Voice for Pest: https://www.voiceforpest.com/podcastForshaw: https://www.forshaw.com/
PestPac by WorkWave: https://www.pestpac.com/pmpindustryinsiders
Peer Groups:https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/peergroups
Insiders Conference:
https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/conference
Oct 22
41 min

This week, Austin and Bo Graham of Recon Pest Services share how they’ve grown their Nebraska-based pest control business from door-to-door sales into a company pursuing growth through organic expansion and acquisitions. They discuss how implementing EOS, defining clear ownership and leadership roles, and building accountability have helped them strengthen their culture, manage operations across state lines, and navigate the challenges of acquisition integration.Guest: Austin Graham, CFO & Visionary & Bo Graham, Sales & Marketing Manager & Integrator, Recon Pest Services Hosts:Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists: https://pcobookkeepers.com/Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services: https://trianglehomeservices.com/Sponsors:Coalmarch: https://www.coalmarch.com/podcastPestSure: https://www.pestsure.com/Voice for Pest: https://www.voiceforpest.com/podcastForshaw: https://www.forshaw.com/
PestPac by WorkWave: https://www.pestpac.com/pmpindustryinsiders
Peer Groups:https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/peergroups
Insiders Conference:
https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/conference
Oct 15
44 min

In part 2 of 2 about Dan's new book, "From CEO to Exit: The Ultimate Payday for Pest and Lawn Care Operators," Dan and Donnie review how to build business value before an exit using the 4 Cs framework (human capital, structural capital, customer capital, and social capital). They also outline a systematic approach to exit planning involving discovery, preparation, and decision phases, and they delve into the challenges of the due diligence process.
Hosts:Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists: https://pcobookkeepers.com/Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services: https://trianglehomeservices.com/Sponsors:Coalmarch: https://www.coalmarch.com/podcastPestSure: https://www.pestsure.com/Voice for Pest: https://www.voiceforpest.com/podcastForshaw: https://www.forshaw.com/
PestPac by WorkWave: https://www.pestpac.com/pmpindustryinsiders
Peer Groups:https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/peergroups
Insiders Conference:
https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/conference
Oct 8
34 min

Welcome to Insiders Rewind - Recapping September
This month, we are looking back to:
Ep. 285 - What's Really Driving the Pest Market?
Ep. 286 - Building a Purpose-Driven Company
Ep. 287 - The Multi-Million Dollar Question: Is Your Estate Plan Ready
Ep. 288 - Is Your Inventory Costing You Money?
A HUGE shout to our sponsors!
Coalmarch: https://www.coalmarch.com/podcast
PestSure: https://www.pestsure.com/
Voice for Pest: https://www.voiceforpest.com/podcast
Forshaw: https://www.forshaw.com/
PestPac by WorkWave: https://www.pestpac.com/pmpindustryinsiders
Peer Groups: https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/peergroups
Insiders Conference: https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/conference
Hosts:
Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists: https://pcobookkeepers.com/
Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services: https://trianglehomeservices.com/
We’d love to hear from you. Drop a comment, leave a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, and connect with us on social media @PMPIndustryInsiders.
Oct 5
17 min

In part 1 of 2 about Dan's new book, "From CEO to Exit: The Ultimate Payday for Pest and Lawn Care Operators," he and Donnie discuss key exit planning concepts, including three gaps to consider: the wealth gap (difference between needed income and current assets), the value gap (improving multiples), and the price gap (potential versus current sale value). They also talk about misconceptions around multiples and understanding adjusted EBITDA.
Hosts:Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists: https://pcobookkeepers.com/Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services: https://trianglehomeservices.com/Sponsors:Coalmarch: https://www.coalmarch.com/podcastPestSure: https://www.pestsure.com/Voice for Pest: https://www.voiceforpest.com/podcastForshaw: https://www.forshaw.com/
PestPac by WorkWave: https://www.pestpac.com/pmpindustryinsiders
Peer Groups:https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/peergroups
Insiders Conference:
https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/conference
Oct 1
32 min

This week, STL Pest Control GM Zach Isenmann talks to Dan and Donnie about his experience joining his father's company, the challenges and growth they faced, and the decision to partner with private equity firm Perennial Services Group. He explained the transition process, the benefits of additional support and resources, and the post-transaction status of the company's culture and operations. Guest: Zach Isenmann, General Manager, STL Pest ControlHosts:Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists: https://pcobookkeepers.com/Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services: https://trianglehomeservices.com/Sponsors:Coalmarch: https://www.coalmarch.com/podcastPestSure: https://www.pestsure.com/Voice for Pest: https://www.voiceforpest.com/podcastForshaw: https://www.forshaw.com/
PestPac by WorkWave: https://www.pestpac.com/pmpindustryinsiders
Peer Groups:https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/peergroups
Insiders Conference:
https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/conference
Sep 24
35 min

This episode features Liam Sunstrum, owner of Yard Dawgs in Western Canada, discussing his company's rapid growth and marketing strategies. Liam tells Dan and Donnie how his company tripled from 4,000 to 12,000 customers over the past year by expanding to five new markets and implementing an advanced tech stack—including HubSpot, Claude AI, and RealGreen—and he details his Facebook and SMS marketing efforts.
Guest: Liam Sunstrum, Owner, Yard DawgsHosts:Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists: https://pcobookkeepers.com/Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services: https://trianglehomeservices.com/Sponsors:Coalmarch: https://www.coalmarch.com/podcastPestSure: https://www.pestsure.com/Voice for Pest: https://www.voiceforpest.com/podcastForshaw: https://www.forshaw.com/
PestPac by WorkWave: https://www.pestpac.com/pmpindustryinsiders
Peer Groups:https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/peergroups
Insiders Conference:
https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/conference
Sep 17
36 min

In this episode of the PMP Industry Insiders Podcast, Dan and Donnie discuss how to avoid being an unpaid bank by managing commercial credit terms. Dan explains the cash flow challenges of commercial accounts receivable and the importance of calculating Days Sales Outstanding (DSO). They discussed strategies such as setting payment terms, using ACH or credit cards, and having a structured collection process.
Hosts:Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists: https://pcobookkeepers.com/Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services: https://trianglehomeservices.com/Sponsors:Coalmarch: https://www.coalmarch.com/podcastPestSure: https://www.pestsure.com/Voice for Pest: https://www.voiceforpest.com/podcastForshaw: https://www.forshaw.com/
PestPac by WorkWave: https://www.pestpac.com/pmpindustryinsiders
Peer Groups:https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/peergroups
Insiders Conference:
https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/conference
Sep 10
23 min

Welcome to Insiders Rewind — Recapping August
This month, we are looking back to:
Ep. 285 - What's Really Driving the Pest Market?
Ep. 286 - Building a Purpose-Driven Company
Ep. 287 - The Multi-Million Dollar Question: Is Your Estate Plan Ready
Ep. 288 - Is Your Inventory Costing You Money?
A HUGE shout to our sponsors!
Coalmarch: https://www.coalmarch.com/podcast
PestSure: https://www.pestsure.com/
Voice for Pest: https://www.voiceforpest.com/podcast
Forshaw: https://www.forshaw.com/
PestPac by WorkWave: https://www.pestpac.com/pmpindustryinsiders
Peer Groups:
https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/peergroups
Insiders Conference:
https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/conference
Hosts: Dan Gordon,
PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists: https://pcobookkeepers.com/
Donnie Shelton,
Triangle Home Services: https://trianglehomeservices.com/
Sep 7
15 min
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