PMP Industry Insiders
PMP Industry Insiders
Brought to you by Donnie Shelton and Dan Gordon
The PMP Industry Insiders podcast helps pest control and lawn care professionals grow their businesses. Every week, hosts Donnie Shelton and Dan Gordon talk with the biggest players in the pest control and lawn care markets about what’s changing in the industry and take listeners to the front lines of what the future holds.
Episode 285:  What's Really Driving the Pest Market?
This week, Dan and Donnie talk with analyst Tim Mulrooney about the current state and future prospects of the pest control industry. Tim shares insights about the long-term strength of the industry and near-term headwinds, such as weather, consumer behavior, and digital marketing costs. He also discusses the K-shaped economy and its potential effects on the industry.    Guest: Tim Mulrooney, Group Head-Global Services, William Blair & Co. Hosts:Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists: https://pcobookkeepers.com/Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services: https://trianglehomeservices.com/Sponsors:Coalmarch: https://www.coalmarch.com/podcastPestSure: https://www.pestsure.com/Voice for Pest: https://www.voiceforpest.com/podcastForshaw: https://www.forshaw.com/ PestPac by WorkWave: https://www.pestpac.com/pmpindustryinsiders Peer Groups:https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/peergroups Insiders Conference:  https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/conference
Aug 6
38 min
Top Takeaways from July | Insiders Rewind
Welcome to Insiders Rewind — Recapping July This month, we are looking back to: #281 - Is Complexity Killing Your Business #282 - HR Update: Noncompetes, Marijuana, Contractors & I-9s #283 - Why You Need a CD Playbook in Pest & Lawn #284 - The Death of Search Engine   A HUGE shout to our sponsors! Coalmarch: https://www.coalmarch.com/podcast PestSure: https://www.pestsure.com/ Voice for Pest: https://www.voiceforpest.com/podcast Forshaw: https://www.forshaw.com/ PestPac by WorkWave: https://www.pestpac.com/pmpindustryinsiders Peer Groups: https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/peergroups Insiders Conference: https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/conference   Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists: https://pcobookkeepers.com/ Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services: https://trianglehomeservices.com/   We’d love to hear from you. Drop a comment, leave a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, and connect with us on social media @PMPIndustryInsiders.
Aug 3
18 min
Episode 284:  The Death of Search Engines
In this episode, Donnie and Dan discuss how the traditional customer journey—web searching, reviewing multiple companies, and contacting businesses directly—is going away due to AI, comparing it to the shift from Yellow Pages to Google. Donnie also does a live demo of an AI agent researching and recommending local services, and he explains how business owners should respond to this shift in consumer behavior.    Hosts:Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists: https://pcobookkeepers.com/Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services: https://trianglehomeservices.com/Sponsors:Coalmarch: https://www.coalmarch.com/podcastPestSure: https://www.pestsure.com/Voice for Pest: https://www.voiceforpest.com/podcastForshaw: https://www.forshaw.com/ PestPac by WorkWave: https://www.pestpac.com/pmpindustryinsiders Peer Groups:https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/peergroups Insiders Conference:  https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/conference
Jul 30
38 min
Episode 283:  Why You Need a CX Playbook in Pest & Lawn
In this episode, Dan and Donnie welcome Margaret Garcia, founder and CEO of Grit PPO, to discuss why every growing company needs a Customer Experience (CX) playbook and actionable steps to create one. Margaret explains why customer service shouldn't rely on tribal knowledge or individual personalities. Successful companies create repeatable systems that ensure every customer receives the same high-quality experience.   Guest: Margaret Garcia, Founder & CEO, Grit PPOHosts:Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists: https://pcobookkeepers.com/Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services: https://trianglehomeservices.com/Sponsors:Coalmarch: https://www.coalmarch.com/podcastPestSure: https://www.pestsure.com/Voice for Pest: https://www.voiceforpest.com/podcastForshaw: https://www.forshaw.com/ PestPac by WorkWave: https://www.pestpac.com/pmpindustryinsiders Peer Groups:https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/peergroups Insiders Conference:  https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/conference
Jul 23
37 min
Episode 282:  HR Update: Noncompetes, Marijuana, Contractors & I-9s
In this episode, HR expert Jean Seawright joins Donnie Shelton and Dan Gordon to break down the biggest employment issues affecting pest control companies today. Jean explains what the FTC's recent action against Rollins means for non-compete agreements and why now is the time to review your employment contracts. She also covers the evolving workplace implications of medical marijuana, what employers need to know about reasonable accommodations, and why documenting impairment—not assumptions—has become increasingly important. Finally, Jean shares the latest guidance on independent contractor classification and an important warning about new I-9 enforcement standards.   Guest: Jean Seawright, HR Update: Noncompetes, Marijuana, Contractors & I-9sHosts:Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists: https://pcobookkeepers.com/Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services: https://trianglehomeservices.com/Sponsors:Coalmarch: https://www.coalmarch.com/podcastPestSure: https://www.pestsure.com/Voice for Pest: https://www.voiceforpest.com/podcastForshaw: https://www.forshaw.com/ PestPac by WorkWave: https://www.pestpac.com/pmpindustryinsiders Peer Groups:https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/peergroups Insiders Conference:  https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/conference
Jul 16
44 min
Episode 281:  Is Complexity Killing Your Business
In this episode of the PMP Industry Insiders Podcast, Donnie and Dan tackle a challenge nearly every pest control and lawn care company faces: the slow creep of unnecessary complexity. From software overload and endless KPIs to outdated service offerings, bloated processes, and unnecessary meetings, they explore why business systems fail when execution breaks down and how pest and lawn companies can avoid this trap.   Hosts:Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A SpecialistsDonnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services   Sponsors: Coalmarch: https://www.coalmarch.com/podcast PestSure: https://www.pestsure.com/ Voice for Pest: https://www.voiceforpest.com/podcast Forshaw: https://www.forshaw.com/   Peer Groups: https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/peergroups Insiders Conference: https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/conference
Jul 9
48 min
Top Takeaways From June | Insiders Rewind
🎙️ Welcome to Insiders Rewind — Recapping June.   This month, we are looking back to: Ep. 277 - What's happening with Rollins & What It Means for Pest Control M&A Ep. 278 - Gamifying Growth: Using Data to Help Your Team Perform Ep. 279 - The New Rules of Pest Control Growth with Jonas Olson Ep. 280 - Avoid These Hidden Risks in Pest Control   A HUGE shout to our sponsors! Coalmarch: https://www.coalmarch.com/podcast PestSure: https://www.pestsure.com/ Voice for Pest: https://www.voiceforpest.com/podcast Forshaw: https://www.forshaw.com/   Peer Groups: https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/peergroups Insiders Conference: https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/conference   Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists: https://pcobookkeepers.com/ Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services: https://trianglehomeservices.com/   We’d love to hear from you. Drop a comment, leave a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, and connect with us on social media @PMPIndustryInsiders.
Jul 6
13 min
Episode 280:  Avoid These Hidden Risks in Pest Control
This week, PestSure's Todd Burke & Kristina Phillips join Dan and Donnie to discuss risk exposures that pest control business owners may overlook. They cover cyber liability threats and real-world examples of breaches, employment practices liability insurance (EPLI) for wage and hour allegations and harassment claims, auto insurance complexities around company vehicles used for personal errands, and the importance of proper umbrella coverage given increasing claim costs.  Guests: Todd Burke, COO & Kristina Phillips, VP & Director of Client Services, PestSure Hosts:Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists: https://pcobookkeepers.com/Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services: https://trianglehomeservices.com/Sponsors:Coalmarch: https://www.coalmarch.com/podcastPestSure: https://www.pestsure.com/Voice for Pest: https://www.voiceforpest.com/podcastForshaw: https://www.forshaw.com/Peer Groups:https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/peergroups Insiders Conference:  https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/conference
Jun 25
41 min
Episode 279:  The New Rules of Pest Control Growth with Jonas Olson
This episode features Jonas Olson, co-founder of Pest Control Millionaires and CEO of Pest Badger, discussing his journey from starting a lawn care company in 2010 to getting into pest control in 2020 and scaling Pest Badger to nearly $20 million in annual revenue across 17 locations in just six years. He highlighted pivotal moments in his firm's growth — including the transition to door-to-door, his approach to AI, and how mindset and finding mentors are essential for business owners looking to break through revenue plateaus.Guest: Jonas Olson, Co-Founder, Pest Control Millionaires & CEO, Pest Badger  Hosts:Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists: https://pcobookkeepers.com/Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services: https://trianglehomeservices.com/Sponsors:Coalmarch: https://www.coalmarch.com/podcastPestSure: https://www.pestsure.com/Voice for Pest: https://www.voiceforpest.com/podcastForshaw: https://www.forshaw.com/Peer Groups:https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/peergroups Insiders Conference:  https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/conference
Jun 18
36 min
Episode 278:  Gamifying Growth: Using Data to Help Your Team Perform
This week, Dan and Donnie welcome Adam Weber, co-founder and CEO of Driven, to discuss how data and employee engagement tools can help pest control companies improve performance. Adam shares his journey from pest company owner to developing Driven, an employee engagement platform that helps service professionals see real-time scorecards and performance metrics. They cover how Driven works, the importance of giving employees ownership of their performance data, and why pest companies should focus on maximizing labor efficiency.  Guest: Adam Weber, co-founder and CEO of DrivenHosts:Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists: https://pcobookkeepers.com/Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services: https://trianglehomeservices.com/Sponsors:Coalmarch: https://www.coalmarch.com/podcastPestSure: https://www.pestsure.com/Voice for Pest: https://www.voiceforpest.com/podcastForshaw: https://www.forshaw.com/Peer Groups:https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/peergroups   Insiders Conference:  https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/conference
Jun 11
35 min
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