In this episode live from the AMA Symposium, host Carrie sits down with Joe Master, Managing Director of Brand and Marketing Strategy at R.W. Jones Agency, to explore the nuances of branding in higher education. Joe shares insights from his journey in university marketing and communications, including lessons from brands like Lego and Crayola, and how their simple yet elegant approaches can inspire the sector. The conversation also delves into leadership strategies for advocating brand-first thinking and the significance of professional development for MarCom leaders.