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What if the best way to understand education isn't by looking at high school or college — but by spending time in kindergarten? This week, Rod and Jal welcome renowned developmental psychologist and author Susan Engel to discuss her new book, American Kindergarten: Dispatches from the First Year of School. The conversation explores the "promises" these early classrooms make to children, from creating order and community to nurturing curiosity, individuality, and love.

