Touched by an episode? Click here to send a voice note.How do you lead people who have the agency not to follow you? Dr. Jeff Thompson, inaugural director of BYU’s Sorensen Center for Moral and Ethical Leadership, joins Hank and John to explore Jeremiah’s 40 years of faithful service without success and what his story teaches us about letting go of control, trusting the Lord, and leading through our own unique gifts.SHOW NOTES/TRANSCRIPTSEnglish: https://tinyurl.com/podcastOT243ENALL EPISODES/SHOW NOTESfollowHIM website: https://www.followHIM.coFREE PDF DOWNLOADS OF followHIM QUOTE BOOKSNew Testament: https://tinyurl.com/PodcastNTBookOld Testament: https://tinyurl.com/PodcastOTBookBook of Mormon: https://tinyurl.com/PodcastBMBookWEEKLY NEWSLETTERhttps://tinyurl.com/followHIMnewsletterSOCIAL MEDIAInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/followhimpodcast/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/followhimpodcastTIMECODES00:00:00 Welcome00:01:41 Meet Dr. Jeff Thompson00:03:51 Jeff's background and bio00:05:35 Jeff's lead role in a musical00:09:24 Why Jeremiah is relatable00:13:56 The Sorensen family's quiet influence00:16:15 Jeremiah's tough times and tough assignment00:20:05 Divine identity and unique gifts00:23:27 Being yourself in the Church00:28:00 Harmony is being different together00:31:25 A student's hidden leadership gift00:34:11 Being gentle with youth who don't fit in00:38:04 Finding your calling: zookeepers00:41:54 The Christ-Centered Leader Model00:44:09 Love, agency, and accountability00:47:29 Seeing the three principles in Jeremiah00:49:42 Letting people learn from mistakes00:52:04 Jeff's mohawk story00:55:06 Learning through consequences00:58:09 Leadership that keeps the door open01:02:04 Love and accountability together01:06:20 Leading with questions01:09:17 Why we reach for control01:13:18 Compliance versus conversion01:15:38 Grace for parents01:18:39 The potter and the clay01:21:37 Growth mindset01:23:04 A man who changed on death row01:26:43 Jeremiah's raw honesty01:29:09 Jeff's dramatic reading01:33:29 Faith and pain together01:35:46 Leadership measured by faithfulness01:37:40 Jeff's story about his children01:41:12 Giving the burden to the Savior01:43:22 Hope for families in the middle of it01:45:53 "Church is still in them"01:48:54 Control is the opposite of faith01:51:04 Jeremiah will be okay01:52:29 Why Jeff returns to scripture01:54:48 Where real power comes from01:57:33 Closing thanks01:59:22 End of Episode - Dr. Jeff Thompson

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Touched by an episode? Click here to send a voice note.Jesus opened his ministry by reading Isaiah, and the congregation tried to throw him off a cliff. Sharon Eubank, author of Doing Small Things with Great Love and a 29-year veteran of Church humanitarian work, joins Hank and John to explore Isaiah 61 and what it means to build a Zion heart by serving the people right in front of us, and by humbly letting others serve us.SHOW NOTES/TRANSCRIPTSEnglish: https://tinyurl.com/podcastOT242ENNOW AVAILABLE INSpanish @followHIMespañolFrench @followHIMFrançaisPortuguese @followHIMPortuguêsALL EPISODES/SHOW NOTESfollowHIM website: https://www.followHIM.coFREE PDF DOWNLOADS OF followHIM QUOTE BOOKSNew Testament: https://tinyurl.com/PodcastNTBookOld Testament: https://tinyurl.com/PodcastOTBookBook of Mormon: https://tinyurl.com/PodcastBMBookWEEKLY NEWSLETTERhttps://tinyurl.com/followHIMnewsletterSOCIAL MEDIAInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/followhimpodcast/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/followhimpodcastTIMECODES00:00 Welcome04:51 Sharon Eubank’s bio07:42 Dad, the weatherman16:11 Beauty for ashes19:11 Still being fulfilled23:56 "I'm a minister now"27:02 Loss and making heaven out of hell31:50 Isaiah pleads for the poor35:03 Can money heal society?38:26 The Tadesse family in Ethiopia41:48 Hope changes communities44:33 Small things with great love47:34 Fast offerings and Katrina51:12 Self-reliance and Pathway54:48 Where the money goes57:25 What can I do right now?60:44 C.S. Lewis and the people in front of us63:11 "I'm going to fast for you"68:11 The dark temple71:04 “Arise and shine forth”75:32 Airplanes and temple lights78:51 Zion and the Nebraska hay82:42 A gospel for everybody86:43 What's working for you?89:35 The humility to receive93:04 For those in pain97:12 Full circle to Nazareth101:28 ClosingThanks to the followHIM team:Steve & Shannon Sorensen: Cofounder, Executive Producer, SponsorDavid & Verla Sorensen: SponsorsDr. Hank Smith: Co-hostJohn Bytheway: Co-hostDavid Perry: DirectorKyle Nelson: Marketing, SponsorLisa Spice: Client Relations, Editor, Show NotesWill Stoughton: Video EditorKrystal Roberts: Translation Team, English & French Transcripts, WebsiteAriel Cuadra: Spanish TranscriptsAmelia Kabwika: Portuguese TranscriptsHeather Barlow: Communications DirectorSydney Smith: Social Media, Graphic Design"Let Zion in Her Beauty Rise" by Marshall McDonaldhttps://www.marshallmcdonaldmusic.com

Touched by an episode? Click here to send a voice note.SHOW NOTES/TRANSCRIPTSEnglish: https://tinyurl.com/podcastOT241ENFrench: https://tinyurl.com/podcastOT241FRGerman: https://tinyurl.com/podcastOT241DEPortuguese: https://tinyurl.com/podcastOT241PTSpanish: https://tinyurl.com/podcastOT241ESNOW AVAILABLE INSpanish @followHIMespañolFrench @followHIMFrançaisPortuguese @followHIMPortuguêsALL EPISODES/SHOW NOTESfollowHIM website: https://www.followHIM.coFREE PDF DOWNLOADS OF followHIM QUOTE BOOKSNew Testament: https://tinyurl.com/PodcastNTBookOld Testament: https://tinyurl.com/PodcastOTBookBook of Mormon: https://tinyurl.com/PodcastBMBookWEEKLY NEWSLETTERhttps://tinyurl.com/followHIMnewsletterSOCIAL MEDIAInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/followhimpodcast/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/followhimpodcastThanks to the followHIM team:Steve & Shannon Sorensen: Cofounder, Executive Producer, SponsorDavid & Verla Sorensen: SponsorsDr. Hank Smith: Co-hostJohn Bytheway: Co-hostDavid Perry: DirectorKyle Nelson: Marketing, SponsorLisa Spice: Client Relations, Editor, Show NotesWill Stoughton: Video EditorKrystal Roberts: Translation Team, English & French Transcripts, WebsiteAriel Cuadra: Spanish TranscriptsAmelia Kabwika: Portuguese TranscriptsHeather Barlow: Communications DirectorSydney Smith: Social Media, Graphic Design"Let Zion in Her Beauty Rise" by Marshall McDonaldhttps://www.marshallmcdonaldmusic.com

Touched by an episode? Click here to send a voice note.If you feel farther from the Lord today than you did yesterday, guess who moved? Dr. Ezra Gwilliam explores Isaiah 50-57, from the suffering servant who was “attacked” by the sins of humankind to the Lord’s tender promise to gather every outcast.SHOW NOTES/TRANSCRIPTSEnglish: https://tinyurl.com/podcastOT241ENFrench: https://tinyurl.com/podcastOT241FRGerman: https://tinyurl.com/podcastOT241DEPortuguese: https://tinyurl.com/podcastOT241PTSpanish: https://tinyurl.com/podcastOT241ESALL EPISODES/SHOW NOTESfollowHIM website: https://www.followHIM.coFREE PDF DOWNLOADS OF followHIM QUOTE BOOKSNew Testament: https://tinyurl.com/PodcastNTBookOld Testament: https://tinyurl.com/PodcastOTBookBook of Mormon: https://tinyurl.com/PodcastBMBookWEEKLY NEWSLETTERhttps://tinyurl.com/followHIMnewsletterSOCIAL MEDIAInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/followhimpodcast/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/followhimpodcastThanks to the followHIM team:Steve & Shannon Sorensen: Cofounder, Executive Producer, SponsorDavid & Verla Sorensen: SponsorsDr. Hank Smith: Co-hostJohn Bytheway: Co-hostDavid Perry: DirectorKyle Nelson: Marketing, SponsorLisa Spice: Client Relations, Editor, Show NotesWill Stoughton: Video EditorKrystal Roberts: Translation Team, English & French Transcripts, WebsiteAriel Cuadra: Spanish TranscriptsAmelia Kabwika: Portuguese TranscriptsHeather Barlow: Communications DirectorSydney Smith: Social Media, Graphic Design"Let Zion in Her Beauty Rise" by Marshall McDonaldhttps://www.marshallmcdonaldmusic.com

Touched by an episode? Click here to send a voice note.SHOW NOTES/TRANSCRIPTSEnglish: https://tinyurl.com/podcastOT240ENFrench: https://tinyurl.com/podcastOT240FRGerman: https://tinyurl.com/podcastOT240DEPortuguese: https://tinyurl.com/podcastOT240PTSpanish: https://tinyurl.com/podcastOT240ESALL EPISODES/SHOW NOTESfollowHIM website: https://www.followHIM.coFREE PDF DOWNLOADS OF followHIM QUOTE BOOKSNew Testament: https://tinyurl.com/PodcastNTBookOld Testament: https://tinyurl.com/PodcastOTBookBook of Mormon: https://tinyurl.com/PodcastBMBook WEEKLY NEWSLETTER https://tinyurl.com/followHIMnewsletter SOCIAL MEDIA Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/followHIMpodcast Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/followhimpodcastThanks to the followHIM team:Steve & Shannon Sorensen: Cofounder, Executive Producer, SponsorDavid & Verla Sorensen: SponsorsDr. Hank Smith: Co-hostJohn Bytheway: Co-hostDavid Perry: ProducerKyle Nelson: Marketing, SponsorLisa Spice: Client Relations, Editor, Show NotesWill Stoughton: Video EditorKrystal Roberts: Translation Team, English & French Transcripts, WebsiteAriel Cuadra: Spanish TranscriptsAmelia Kabwika: Portuguese TranscriptsHeather Barlow: Communications DirectorSydney Smith: Social Media, Graphic Design "Let Zion in Her Beauty Rise" by Marshall McDonaldhttps://www.marshallmcdonaldmusic.com

Touched by an episode? Click here to send a voice note.What if God, who holds oceans in His hand, is more concerned with your fear than your failures? Dr. S. Michael Wilcox joins Hank and John to explore Isaiah 40-49, weaving personal loss, a vivid vision of divine judgment, and the promise that God never grows discouraged with those who are honestly trying.YOUTUBE: https://youtu.be/rWohGVtM0KsfollowHIM website: https://www.followHIM.coInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/followHIMpodcastFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/followhimpodcastTIMECODES00:00 Beginning of Episode - Dr. S. Michael Wilcox2:31 Shut the left brain, turn on the right6:52 Liken the words of Isaiah9:02 Introducing Dr. S. Michael Wilcox11:25 “Comfort ye, my people”13:58 “A voice crying in the wilderness”17:05 “Behold your God”19:11 Michael wasn’t a great runner22:04 Who hath measured the waters25:15 It’s the invitation to intimacy28:33 When God feels far away32:29 Kind, not just powerful33:38 I have a B+ personality38:15 Holding your hand through it41:41 He won’t break what’s already bruised45:21 Justice, not condemnation48:03 Trusting the one leading you50:02 The Waiting Room53:13 I’ll go in with you57:13 I won’t remember your sins59:39 Someone pleading on your behalf1:00:04 A judgment meant to be pleasant1:04:01 The greatest discovery of life1:07:10 God loves me1:10:26 A blessing poured on your children1:13:01 You will not be forgotten1:16:40 The god you carry vs. the God who carries you1:20:15 Babylon falls, Zion rises1:25:15 Babylon’s false confidence1:29:31 Make room, you’re going to need it1:33:42 Peace that never stops moving1:38:29 Send THIS to your teen1: 40:03 Fed in the highest places1:43:03 A love that won’t forget you1:45:21 Look at how many are coming1:49:18 Carried by others1:55:00 It’s not a race, we’re going gently1:57:35 End of Episode - Dr. S. Michael WilcoxThanks to the followHIM team:Steve & Shannon Sorensen: Cofounder, Executive Producer, SponsorDavid & Verla Sorensen: SponsorsDr. Hank Smith: Co-hostJohn Bytheway: Co-hostDavid Perry: ProducerKyle Nelson: Marketing, SponsorLisa Spice: Client Relations, Editor, Show NotesWill Stoughton: Video EditorKrystal Roberts: Translation Team, English & French Transcripts, WebsiteAriel Cuadra: Spanish TranscriptsAmelia Kabwika: Portuguese TranscriptsHeather Barlow: Communications DirectorSydney Smith: Social Media, Graphic Design"Let Zion in Her Beauty Rise" by Marshall McDonaldhttps://www.marshallmcdonaldmusic.com

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Touched by an episode? Click here to send a voice note.Why does a good God allow the desert–and why does he wait so long to bring us out of it? Kathryn Davis examines Isaiah’s message of destruction and restoration, showing how Christ’s role as both “restorer” and “repairer” offers a framework for trusting God’s timing even when prayers go unanswered.YOUTUBE: https://youtu.be/6fRn2NPCiQ4ALL EPISODES/SHOW NOTESfollowHIM website: https://www.followHIM.coSOCIAL MEDIAInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/followHIMpodcastFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/followhimpodcastTIMECODES00:00 Beginning of Episode - Kathryn Davis00:28 A Marvelous Work and a Wonder00:54 Welcome and Intro2:26 Finding Jesus Christ in difficult Isaiah chapters5:43 Meet Kathryn Davis8:18 Jesus Christ as Restorer10:27 Inviting the Holy Ghost into our learning13:04 Why Jesus asks us to Study Isaiah16:53 Slow Down19:21 Isaiah 12–Trust and do not be afraid21:14 Babylon as a symbol and a burden25:40 Natural consequences and a God who still restores29:57 Pride and trusting ourselves instead of God31:08 “God’s not worried about my son”33:45 Isaiah 14–After scattering comes gathering38:10 Jesus Christ–the Repairer of the breach42:32 The fall of Babylon and Lucifer45:57 Stop looking elsewhere to be saved47:26 The gospel is simple–Choose Him50:07 The Stripling Warriors were all wounded52:59 Recognizing Christ by His scars54:35 Who are you going to trust?59:12 the Assyrian army approaches Jerusalem1:02:56 Shebna, Eliakim, and “the nail in the sure place”1:07:44 The God of the 4th Watch1:09:55 Why does God sometimes wait?1:13:20 Saved in the fire, not from it1:17:51 Comfortable gods and divine discontent1:21:38 Apostasy, restoration, and the gospel feast1:26:50 Perfect peace–Where are you looking?1:29:40 Trust the plan and its Maker1:32:18 Gathered, repaired, and rescued one-by-one1:36:49 “A voice speaking from the dust”1:39:27 A marvelous work1:42:21 The power is in the words1:45:19 The Lord will wait, that He may be gracious1:47:31 Isaiah points us toward a Person1:48:23 The desert is not the end1:50:04 I will trust1:52:08 Closing thoughts and testimony1:53:05 End of Episode - Kathryn DavisThanks to the followHIM team:Steve & Shannon Sorensen: Cofounder, Executive Producer, SponsorDavid & Verla Sorensen: SponsorsDr. Hank Smith: Co-hostJohn Bytheway: Co-hostDavid Perry: ProducerKyle Nelson: Marketing, SponsorLisa Spice: Client Relations, Editor, Show NotesWill Stoughton: Video EditorKrystal Roberts: Translation Team, English & French Transcripts, WebsiteAriel Cuadra: Spanish TranscriptsAmelia Kabwika: Portuguese TranscriptsHeather Barlow: Communications DirectorSydney Smith: Social Media, Graphic Design"Let Zion in Her Beauty Rise" by Marshall McDonaldhttps://www.marshallmcdonaldmusic.com

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