FiveThirtyEight Politics
FiveThirtyEight Politics
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Getting Harder and Harder to Like
I still like listening to Nate (usually) and sometimes to Galen, but the other commentators are interchangeable and personality free. I really miss Clare Malone. She was not a statistics wonk or a Great Expert in a vertiginously narrow policy field, but she had personality and a regular-person perspective that is now almost totally absent. Every personnel change at 538 Politics since Harry’s departure has made the show drier and less interesting. And the typical hour is really too long.
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“Writ large”
Please, for the love of God, stop using the phrase “writ large”. Every episode it is uttered at least once.
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Going Downhill
I used to really like this podcast but unfortunately the crew has changed a lot in the past year and the new hosts are not nearly as interesting. Clare Malone, Perry Bacon Jr and Micah Cohen were far more engaging and entertaining then Nathanial or Amelia or whoever else they choose to feature. ABC made a mistake canning Clare and letting Perry walk away. I’m a loyal listener and so I’ll keep on it hoping they find a new formula that works. But the current formula is definitely not going to be able to survive.
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Bring back Clare
Always listened to every episode, but I’m done unless ABC rehires Clare Malone. She was the smartest person on the podcast.
What a disappointing season
This was my go-to podcast for political analysis for four years, it used to be so great. Unfortunately, the quality of the podcast took a nose dive after the 2020 election. Is Nate Silver even the host anymore? They booted Clare Malone, lost Perry and Harry to other outlets, and now Nate doesn’t even bother to show up. It’s probably time for them to retire the podcast and focus on the website and election models.
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9/11 Era political consensus
This was pretty shoddy work. People trying examine the historical context were, by their own admission, in elementary school when 9/11 happened. What they found wasn’t horrible. But this was only 20 years ago, not the Civil War. There are plenty of thoughtful people who were adults and professional political journalists at the time who could lend perspective.
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Getting tedious
First Harry left. Then Clare was pushed out. Now Nate is busy playing poker. The podcast has lost its luster. I used to look forward listening at my desk, now it’s become hard to get through an episode.
Diluting Your Brand
Please stop diluting your brand with these grad student discussions. Stick with number-based analysis, which we can’t get very easily elsewhere. I assume ABC is pushing you to expand your audience. However, doing what other sites already do and do better is not the way to go.
stephen nyc
Fell off a cliff
This podcast used to be relaxing and an interesting listen. With being said it’s just not the same.
You cancelled Ms Malone
Or did she want to leave? Maybe a handwriting on the wall kind of thing. Either way, as another reviewer wrote, pretending any womanly voice will replace Clare is insulting to listeners, to Clare and to women. Perry Bacon Jr replaced Clare. He didn’t have seniority. Speaks for itself.
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I have to one star again
Work shift continues with the Bernie shill Nathaniel.
A great podcast with zero credibility
It really depends what kind of podcast you are looking for. If you are looking for a podcast that is really engaging, has great hosts, guests, and is full of politics, this is for you. With that being said, 538 as a company has literally no credibility as far as polling, and you have to take everything you hear with mountain of salt. So enjoy this podcast but don’t take anything they say seriously and remember that 538 was wrong on literally every prediction in 2016 and 2020.
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Moishy Knaw
We miss Clare!
Breaking news: Nate Silver discovers a basic theory of epidemiology! Honestly, this podcast has gone down the drain with both Perry and Clare gone. Maybe Nate should just go to poker full time.
Where’s Nate
The dialogue here is too precious. This show has become weak on facts and stats and strong on maybe this and maybe that…… It feels strange and anecdotal. Maybe it’s me I just am losing interest.
mc d-ren
A classic case where the hosts talk a lot but aren’t saying anything beyond their obsession with the sounds of their own voices. There are so many better podcasts covering politics that provide interesting insight and information. They should have shut this one down in January following the inauguration. Time to unsubscribe and delete from my library
July 15 show
Thank you for the show with the guest from Bright Watch. Galen is a well informed host who sticks to facts. That episode is one of your best.
I miss Clare Malone and Perry Bacon Jr.
This is still an entertaining and informative podcast, with compelling data driven insight. However, Clare was really fun, and Perry provided perspective that is rarely found in these type of programs.
Where’s the NYC Mayoral analysis?
I’m surprised that you guys haven’t put out an episode focused on the analysis of the NYC election. With all the candidates and possible strategies for the city’s first ranked choice voting, seems like that’d be in your wheelhouse. By the way, I really enjoy your podcast and listened to every episode during the last 2 presidential elections. Deducting 1 star because I too miss Clare.
It’s good!
These nerds are boring but I like it.
For the love of God time stamp your episodes
No one wants to listen for 20 mins every episode about why it’s ok and actually electorally prudent the democrats don’t want to do anything with their majorities. Just mark your episodes so I can skip that part.
Waiting for an election
It’s so much drier and less fun without Clare Malone’s energy. Now more of a passive listen until 2022.
Skunkle Dave
Post-Election Dumpster Fire
Loved this all election season and with Clare. Absolute disaster ever since she left. By far the driest political/polling pod in the genre these days, complete with unlimited cringe.
Partisan drivel
Their bias shows.
Love Galen and Nate
Love Galen and Nate, plus the theme song reminds me of Fergie’s “My H*mps” like a lot. Great reporting, great soundtrack.
You’ve turned normcore
This used to be about dry data-driven analysis. Now it’s about second rate journos who aren’t Nate (where is Nate??) out-woking each other. Back up every statement with data, please, especially the ones you take as sacrosanct. And get out of your Twitter bubble. You have a blind spot as big as the Empire State Building.
All things being equal, Nate, Clare, Micah, Galen, and Perry are worth a star each. Sure there were great episodes without all 5, but the classic crew was the best crew. Clare was fired, Perry moved on, Nate and Micah are rarely on, so the recent episodes haven’t been super engaging. There’s also not much horse racing going on right now, so I suspect things will go on like this for a while. Of the recent episodes, I’m 0/5 on getting past minute 10.
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Sad to watch the pod’s slow decline
I started listening along with the crew just before the 2016 election. I’ve kept up with them up until recent months, but it was a long time coming. Maybe it’s because Harry’s gone, maybe it’s because Clare’s gone, maybe it’s because Nate’s not around as much, but the commentary has become predictable and uninteresting. Perhaps the old chemistry forced out interesting takes or conversations. Regardless, one could get the same content reading the replies on a random neolib Twitter account.
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Not the same without Clare
If ABC read the reviews on this show they’d know what a huge mistake they made firing Clare. The longer this show falters on without her the more apparent it is that she was holding it together. Galen is doing an admirable job trying to keep things interesting, but without the main person willing to stand up to Nate the more banal the show gets. Oh well.
Ugh! Too woke!
In the June 2021 podcast, the speaker spoke about “Cis Females.” No. There are no “Cis Females,” they are simply “Females.” There are “Trans Women,” who have a XY Chromosome and not a XX Chromosome. Please do not adopt the woke appellation of “Cis.”
Gary Robbins
Bring Back Clare
I still miss Clare. An independent, wry, confident, yet self-questioning voice. Get her back. Could you bring back Clare as a guest? Please.
Mainstream liberal podcast
Edit: well it was inevitable I suppose, what was once a pretty mainstream liberal podcast which at least made the occasional effort to nod to counter arguments, has now become a more progressive style podcast. The newer hosts are pretty clearly very liberal and they have zero pushback when they delve into extremism. ————————————- 538 is a fairly typical mainstream liberal podcast. Its a lot like Vox media’s podcast except that 538 (while decidedly liberal) isn’t quite as far left on the political spectrum. Where this podcast really suffers is by having only left leaning and liberal voices on and it’s really part of the “bubble” that the podcast itself often talks about. They are in desperate need of having a centrist or (gasp!) conservative regular host to go along with the current liberal panel. I often wonder what the ABC news/538 hosts must think when they have their “town halls” and there audience is clearly and completely a very liberal one. Isn’t that a pretty clear indicator of what kind of podcast they are hosting? Of note, Claire Malone is this podcasts shining star. She has a very convivial personality and her thoughts are often quite nuanced.
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Sadly I am finished.
This podcast really fell off a cliff. Please Nate, take charge. Get fivethirtyeight back to data. To independent thought. Most of these episodes are left-leaning banter. The episode discussing the views of people abroad was a total waste.
What about Beta O’Rourke? He ran too!
OMG 😳!! I guess you missed him when naming Democratic Primary candidates because he wasn’t a Mayor or Governor or Senator or anything really…at least, not now. The fact he almost won the Senate is either a testament to his viability or proof of how much Texans hate Ted Cruz (I heard👂a rumor Ted Cruz stole Bob Hope’s nose 👃). I listened to your recent podcasts at least 3X (okay I rewinded it; even I can’t take that much Nate)! I bet Claire would’ve got all of them🤨. I would give you the international “Rick and Morty” salute but I’d get flagged or something. Get it together….and bring back Claire. It seemed a little “cutthroat” the way you guys dropped her like a bad habit but she was too authentic for “where your show is going” (…is what I’m sure the “suits” said) UPDATE A FEW MINUTES LATER: Wow! I thought it was just me, but Claire getting the boot probably doomed this podcast even though I like Galen, Perry, anytime Harry is on, he’s so authentic like Claire. Once Nate finally jumps ship 🚢 it’s over baby. I used to get a little irritated with her voice and the fact she had the biggest 🏀⚽️s of any of them but she grew on me…and she was right and was the vinegar in the “oil and vinegar” salad 🥗. And not everyone can be the vinegar whereas anyone can be the oil. That’s the truth Ruth. BRING BACK CLAIRE before your 4.6 rating drops to a 3.5. Whoever talked you guys into firing Claire should be fired. Was it because of a focus group? How about us, the listeners? Did you ever think of asking us about it? No, you didn’t. Your just following the dollar like everyone else. Oh well…there’s always the NPR Politics Podcast. At least we still have that!
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Santa fe Jack
Update: where is Nate?? I’m done when Nate is gone. He is 538! The podcast is not the same without Clare! She has qualities that you apparently are not valuing but do make the show unique. She is funny and witty and brings out the best in all of the group. There are plenty of smart political shows out there to choose from so personalities are quite important!
Clare needs to come back
This show is not the same without Clare, she carried the show way more than Nate ever did. I think I may unsubscribe after 5 years of listening, makes me sad but the show is so dry & boring now, it just isn’t a fun “must listen” like it used to be.
Not the same without Claire
It was weirdly and inexplicably my favorite podcast, if found it very comforting for some reason. Its seems in retrospect that this was because of the chemistry between the male hosts and Claire. She was really wonderful and there was humor and good-natured lightness, it just worked. The new women seem very smart and nice but it’s just different without Claire. What could they have been thinking? It’s lost it’s magic, but it’s really weird that it had any magic in the first place; the 538 podcast shouldn’t have ever have been so good but it was, now it’s just sort of what you would expect it to be.
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I listen every Monday w/o fail (not anymore)
Updated June 2021 review: Nate never shows up, Perry (the only person I cared to listen to besides Nate) is gone. Galen is doing a great job but with Clare fired and Perry gone it’s just not the same. Clare being fired was an injustice. I still listen, but kind of reluctantly. And I don’t care about polling on fighting animals. Please. At least cover the few races around the country. Updated review: Perry is just so smart, who cares if his voice is a bit breath-y. His analysis is always backed up by solid data. He also has non-obvious and non-facile insights on the politics of the two parties, which I appreciate. Check out his articles on 538 too, which always offer interesting angles and are the ones I mostly read on the site. — Love Perry Bacon Jr. — terrific (and IMO overdue) addition to the Monday podcast, even if we’ll miss Micah.
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Huge Chemistry Loss Without Clare
I’ve resisted writing a review for a while. As a long time listener to 538, I wanted to give the opportunity for the team to bounce back from yet another personnel change. However, the time has come for me to say that the listenability of this podcast has declined significantly since Clare was let go. Clare’s contributions rounded out the other contributor’s perfectly. I, of course, appreciate Nate’s opinion; however, I think Clare’s observations helped challenge and refine the discourse to a higher level than we now see without her. I used to never miss an episode. Now I am weeks behind. I don’t think that this will continue to be a must-listen podcast with the current group.
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Missing Claire but still listening...
It wasn't just Claire's personality but her perspective as a female. She wasn't afriad to step into the fray of the testosterone on the show. I do like some of the female reporters that come on, but it's not the same as having the constant of a female voice. Obviously, I am a female who appreciates females who are just as smart and articulate as any male, never mind in the area of statistics and polling.
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Episode on NYC Mayoral Politics Exemplifies Rapid Slide in Quality
Pedantic and BORING. Desperately in need of more diverse (ideologically, epistemically, RACIALLY) voices. The episode on the NYC mayoral race was especially disappointing. I do not understand why the former Bloomberg hack who presented a sneering and unchallenged view of progressive challenges and “minority” communities in NYC was allowed to drone on and on wand on and on. Who is choosing these guests?
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For the sheltered & privileges, by the sheltered.
Presents a sheltered, ivory tower perspective for listeners of a high social class who don’t live in the real world. I listen for entertainment and to see what the “pajama class” thinks and is concerned about.
More Nate
Too many episodes lately without Nate. I’m also not a fan of the rotating panelists. Hopefully this is just some growing pains and the show returns to a format closer to the pre Disney days.
Sarah Felice
My Favorite Politics Podcast, but technical problems.
If you pad another podcast with this tedious animal fighting nonsense, I will unsubscribe.
Not the same without Claire Malone
Long time listener to this podcast, used to find it informative and intelligent. Since the beginning of 2021 the show has declined and initially couldn’t put my finger on why. Now I realize that it was Claire Malone that made the show smart. Without her you are just listening to Nate Silver being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian and rest of the crew going along with it. And the schtick is getting old.
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I loved this podcast a couple years ago
But it has degenerated into a graduate school practicum. I’m out after a couple attempts to stomach what now passes for “analysis.”
Lost Its Spark
Sorry but the chemistry was lost once Clare was fired. Used to be 5 star but 1 star now. Sad to see the pod decline and not sure that they can turn it around.
Bunch of racists
You need a slightly less racist panel on New York City mayoral politics. 0/5 stars. Would give it fewer if I could
Deleting this game as I write
I don’t know…
If you want reasonably intelligent analysis from the left this pod is that. I wish they would just admit their bias. Trying to act as though your independent and playing it down the middle just hurts the shows credibility.
Show is moving in the wrong direction
As a lifelong Independent who votes for candidates rather than parties, I’ve always loved this podcast and easily tolerated the liberal views of some hosts because they were aware of their biases and kept the discussion objective. Today it struck me that it doesn’t feel that way anymore. The discussion on CDC announcing that the vaccinated need not wear masks - an objectively wonderful milestone - seemed to be met pretty uniformly in this group by barely contained disgust. Some states elected conservative governors who are faithfully representing their constituents’ desires. You may disagree with their choices and you may even have very good evidence-based reasons to do so. However, it’s incredibly unfair to blame the CDC for the actions of others. The logical conclusion of your criticism would be that the federal government should have better coordinated the CDC’s messaging to help ensure their desired political outcomes. No, no, no, no, no. That’s exactly what Trump tried to do with CDC messaging, and thankfully failed. It was an abuse of power and it was despicable. Please, let the CDC do their job, and blame the politicians for politics.
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Love it, but...
I love the podcast. Makes me think, keeps me engaged. I don’t mind the rotating panelists. My only issue is that if you say you have podcasts on Monday and Thursday, release them at a reasonable time. If you can’t make those deadlines, just say Tuesday and Friday. Consistency and reliability are essential for your listeners. If I can’t expect to always have an episode on my drive to work or home from work, what’s the point?
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