Behavioral Grooves Podcast
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Kurt Nelson, PhD and Tim Houlihan
Why We Get Bored | Erin Westgate
1 hour 20 minutes Posted Jan 19, 2026 at 6:00 am.
] Intro and Speed Round with Erin Westgate
] Do we think for pleasure?
] Why men would rather shock themselves than be bored
] The MAC model
] Is boredom useful?
] Enjoyable vs. interesting experiences
] Can a boring life still be a good life?
] Boredom and burnout at work
] Is boredom good or bad?
] Designing better environments for bored people
] Desert island music
] Grooving Session: Boredom and meaning in life
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Boredom feels unpleasant, but that may be the point. Psychologist Dr. Erin Westgate joins us to explain why boredom is a signal rather than a flaw, how meaning and attention shape it, and what it can teach us about work, burnout, and living a psychologically rich life.
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