Back Row with Amy Odell
Back Row with Amy Odell
Amy Odell
Fashion, style, celebrity and culture. Insider knowledge. Outsider honesty. Humor included.
Is Fashion in Total Creative Collapse?
*SUBSCRIBE to the Back Row newsletter for more coverage like this: https://www.backrow.net/subscribe. Go Premium and save three months on an annual subscription.* Is fashion in the throes of a total creative collapse? Critic Eugene Rabkin β€” founder of StyleZeitgeist and author of the new book Torn: Fashion and Postmodernism β€” joins Amy to make the case. He argues luxury has "devolved into a consumerist spectacle," its lack of ideas papered over by relentless marketing. They get into the greedflation behind a $140,000 Dior dress, why "craftsmanship" is the industry's greatest con, the Italian sweatshop scandals that never seem to stick, how Bernard Arnault turned the fashion world into the fashion industry β€” and the death of criticism, and why nobody seems to care. CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 02:30 Fashion's creative collapse: the thesis 08:30 Greedflation & the $140,000 Dior dress 13:00 The craftsmanship con 15:00 Sweatshop scandals: Dior & Loro Piana's vicuΓ±a 23:30 The death of fashion criticism 32:00 Bernard Arnault & how he industrialized fashion πŸ“Ί SUBSCRIBE to the Back Row Newsletter: https://www.backrow.net/subscribe πŸ“· Follow Back Row on Instagram: @backrow πŸ“· Follow Amy on Instagram: @instamyodell Follow Eugene Rabkin πŸ“· Follow Eugene on Instagram: @eugenerabkin πŸ“š Buy the book: Torn: Fashion and Postmodernism This episode was edited by Chrissi Harris. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Aug 10
41 min
John Galliano Is Finally Getting a Met Gala. Should He? (Teaser)
John Galliano is the subject of the Costume Institute's 2027 exhibition and will be celebrated with his very own Met Gala. Galliano's biographer Dana Thomas β€” author of Gods and Kings, a dual biography about Galliano and Alexander McQueen β€” joins the show to talk about what this means. Amy and Dana recap Galliano's fall from grace and image rehabilitation β€” thanks to Anna Wintour. This is a free preview. Hear the full conversation β€” a detailed recap of the controversy, the apology Galliano never made, and Amy's take on whether the Met should honor him β€” in the full episode in Back Row Premium. Sign up for the newsletter at backrow.net/subscribe to access the newsletter plus all Premium podcasts, or subscribe for audio only in Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Aug 4
8 min
The Louvre Heist and Shady Billionaire Art Owners
"Parisian Heist" author Jo Piazza joins Amy to break down the October 2025 Louvre robbery β€” the suspects, the mysterious "sponsor," and why authorities aren't sure the suspects are telling the truth. Plus: why museum security is so basic, how art gets used to launder money and fund violent crime, the billionaire families who quietly run the art market, and what a $181 million Jackson Pollock says about the state of art and wealth. (00:00) Introduction (02:30) Recap: the Louvre heist, October 19, 2025 (04:30) The Isabella Stewart Gardner heist: $500M, still unsolved (07:30) The arrests and the mysterious "sponsor" named Joe (08:30) How basic museum security really is (13:00) What was stolen: the Napoleonic crown jewels (16:30) The Wildensteins & how art launders money (30:00) The $60 billion shadow art market (31:00) Restoring Empress EugΓ©nie's crown & the French jewelry houses (38:30) The $181M Pollock & Jerry Saltz's takedown of the art market Subscribe to the Back Row newsletter: https://www.backrow.net/subscribe Buy The Parisian Heist: https://amzn.to/4yLV6ex Follow Back Row: @backrow Β· Follow Amy: @instamyodell Β· Follow Jo: @jopiazzaauthor Edited by Chrissi Harris. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Aug 3
45 min
How Meta Turned Smart Glasses Into 'Hot Surveillance Summer' (with Taylor Lorenz)
In this special episode in collaboration with the Power User podcast Amy Odell joins tech journalist Taylor Lorenz to trace the arc of wearable tech β€” from the abomination that was Google Glass to Snapchat's vending-machine Spectacles and the company's recent $2,000 flop. Also, why Meta's rollout of it's new $299 fashion-first AI glasses, odious as many find them, may end up being a smash hit. Follow Taylor's show Power User on Spotify, Apple, and YouTube, and subscribe to her newsletter, UserMag. Chapters: 00:00 Intro β€” why everyone's arguing about Meta's glasses 01:36 Turning a camera into a fashion accessory 01:55 Welcome + the "hot surveillance summer" question 02:45 Google Glass and the original abomination 04:16 Snapchat Spectacles, vending machines, and a $130 flop 06:48 GoPro and how sports normalized filming everything 08:55 Ray-Ban Stories (2021) and the "creep" problem 10:57 2025: Oakley Meta and the first AI glasses 11:55 2026: low-profile frames, rhinestones, and AI as the real sell 13:25 The influencer rollout and the decline of fashion media 18:39 Why Kylie Jenner 21:40 How phones already normalized recording everything 24:56 Fashion, plausible deniability, and getting women on board 26:20 Will they actually sell? Meta's copy machine 29:19 The anti-screen crowd may be Meta's best customer 32:14 Beyond glasses: pins, pendants, and camera AirPods 35:29 Who owns the data? Facial recognition and the scary part 37:11 Zuckerberg, Bezos, the Met Gala, and OpenAI's fashion play 39:59 Snap's $2,000 flop and why ugly tech dies 43:03 Wrap-up Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jul 30
43 min
The Kennedys and British Royals: Diana's Death, Meghan Markle's Muse, and JFK Jr.'s Ego
***SUBSCRIBE to the Back Row newsletter for more coverage like this. Go Premium and save three months on an annual subscription.*** Town & Country editor Caroline Hallemann's new book is The Kennedys and the Windsors: The Story of Two Dynasties, One Born, One Made. She joins Amy to discuss the eerie parallels between these two dynasties. Among the surprising stories in Hallemann's book: how Jackie Kennedy fought to keep wearing French designers as First Lady, why JFK Jr. wanted Princess Diana on the cover of George, the real story behind Diana's death and the ongoing conspiracy theories, and how Meghan Markle copied Carolyn Bessette's style. Plus: what Jack Schlossberg's blistering congressional loss means for the Kennedy dynasty. Chapters: 00:00 Introduction 03:00 Young Jackie at Miss Porter's and her enduring fashion influence 08:00 What "American Love Story" got wrong about Carolyn Bessette 10:30 JFK Jr. launches George magazine 14:00 Why John wanted Diana on the cover 20:00 Diana's death: what actually happened 32:00 The conspiracy theories that still swirl around Diana's death 39:00 Why Meghan Markle keeps copying Carolyn Bessette's style 53:00 Is Jack Schlossberg the next JFK Jr.? Subscribe to the Back Row newsletter: https://www.backrow.net/subscribe Follow Caroline Hallemann: https://www.instagram.com/challemann/ Buy the book: https://amzn.to/4fVX8Bq Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jul 27
58 min
A Stylist to Billionaires on How the .01 Percent Really Shop
This is a teaser of a paywalled podcast. Get the full episode by subscribing to the Back Row newsletter. For podcast content only, go Premium on Apple or Spotify. Joy Cioci has been in fashion for 23 years β€” first with her own ready-to-wear and bridal brand, and for the past six years, as a private stylist to some of the wealthiest families in the country. She joins Amy to talk about what that job is actually like: how she pulls $80-90K worth of merchandise on loan for a single client, why some of her clients refuse to play the HermΓ¨s "game," and why women spending $1.5 million a year on clothes have no idea what just dropped at Chanel. CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 4:00 Who Joy's clients actually are 9:30 How pulling merchandise on loan from stores works 11:00 Inside an $80-90K shopping trip 18:00 What ultra-wealthy people actually want from their wardrobe 21:00 Finding rare pieces no one else has Follow Joy Cioci πŸ“Έ Follow Joy on Instagram: @joycioci πŸ›οΈ Shop Joy Cioci: https://joycioci.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jul 20
24 min
Phia's Latest Scandal: Is Phoebe Gates's Startup in Trouble?
Lawyer and The Fashion Law founder Julie Zerbo makes her Back Row pod debut to discuss the latest Phia scandal. The startup, founded by Bill Gates's daughter Phoebe Gates and her Stanford roommate Sophia Kianni, was just found to be taking credit for affiliate sales it did not drive. People are calling it "fraud" but is it, really? Can the Gates name and a slew of celeb founders help them sail through this unscathed? Chapters: 00:00 Introduction 02:32 Phia's origin story and Phoebe Gates and Sophia Kiani's Stanford beginnings 09:16 The first scandal: Fortune's report on Phia's data collection 16:17 The second scandal: Bloomberg's cookie-stuffing investigation 19:18 Explaining cookie stuffing β€” and the Honey/PayPal lawsuits 27:23 Did Phia's investors do proper due diligence? 36:22 Could this be fraud? The legal answer 43:15 Does Phia's celebrity halo make it bulletproof? Subscribe to the Back Row newsletter: https://www.backrow.net/subscribe Follow Julie Zerbo and The Fashion Law: https://www.thefashionlaw.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jul 15
49 min
Fall 2026 Couture Awards: Dangerous Shoes, Hat Wars, and Wedding Dresses
Veteran fashion journalist Dana Thomas returns for Fall 2026 couture awards! We talk about the hat wars at Dior, the wildest shoes, and the Chanel chicken bag that seems like it can't carry more than a pill or two. This is a teaser of a paid episode. Subscribe at Back Row (save three months on an annual subscription) to access paywalled podcasts AND all newsletter stories. For podcast access only, sign up in Apple Podcasts or Spotify. CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 03:18 What "couture" actually means 08:08 Award: Most Viral Front Row Celebrity 10:49 Award: Best Front Row Celebrity 13:37 Award: Best Couture Handiwork 16:58 Award: Best Shoes 20:18 Award: Best Bags Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jul 13
25 min
13 Biggest Questions About Taylor Swift's Wedding
Subscribe to the Back Row newsletter. Go Premium and save three months on an annual subscription to access paywalled podcasts and all newsletter stories. Taylor Swift married Travis Kelce at Madison Square Garden β€” and nobody's seen the photos yet. Will Vogue get them? Will anyone? Amy Odell is joined by veteran celebrity journalist Justin Ravitz (former Executive Editor at Us Weekly and Rolling Stone) to count down 13 burning questions about the wedding of the year β€” 13, of course, because it's Taylor's lucky number. From the Dior couture ceremony looks to the guest list chaos (Zadie Smith? Wayne Gretzky? No Kardashians?) to whether this whole thing might end up as a theatrical release, Amy and Justin go through it all. CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 02:50 #13 – What did she get talked out of? 06:23 #12 – What did Travis Kelce wear? 10:52 #11 – How close were they with their guests, really? 22:08 #10 – What was in the guests' NDAs? 25:33 #9 – Who leaked the wedding photos? 28:19 #8 – Were there religious elements? Was Adam Sandler ordained? 30:45 #7 – Did anyone try to slip them a gift? 37:27 #6 – Were there brand or corporate sponsors? 38:59 #5 – What were her cats doing? 40:54 #4 – Whose idea was the TT logo? 42:22 #3 – What celebrities were invited and said no? 44:57 #2 – Who was deliberately not invited? 51:59 #1 – Will the wedding be a theatrical release? 58:47 Final thoughts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jul 7
1 hr 2 min
What 'Love Story' Got Wrong About Carolyn Bessette Kennedy and JFK Jr.'s Final Days
This is a teaser of a paid episode. To access the full episode, subscribe to Back Row at BackRow.net and get newsletter access included with your subscription. Or sign up in Apple Podcasts or Spotify. RoseMarie Terenzio and Liz McNeil β€” authors of ⁠JFK Jr.: An Intimate Oral Biography⁠ β€” return to the Back Row podcast in honor of Love Story's likely Emmy nominations. Terenzio assisted JFK Jr. at George magazine, and McNeil has covered him at People since the 90s, so they know what the show creators don't. We cover what we didn't get to last time: Daryl Hannah's bombshell New York Times op-ed, what the show got right and wrong about Carolyn Bessette's distress over the paparazzi, the plane crash, and whether Jack Schlossberg is the next JFK Jr. Chapters: 00:00 β€” Intro 04:00 β€” The actor who played JFK Jr. called RoseMarie 08:30 β€” Daryl Hannah's bombshell NYT op-ed 14:30 β€” The wedding: how reporters found out 23:30 β€” Was Carolyn really depressed and homebound? 28:00 β€” The plane crash: what actually happened Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jul 6
31 min
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