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Is fashion in the throes of a total creative collapse? Critic Eugene Rabkin β founder of StyleZeitgeist and author of the new book Torn: Fashion and Postmodernism β joins Amy to make the case. He argues luxury has "devolved into a consumerist spectacle," its lack of ideas papered over by relentless marketing.
They get into the greedflation behind a $140,000 Dior dress, why "craftsmanship" is the industry's greatest con, the Italian sweatshop scandals that never seem to stick, how Bernard Arnault turned the fashion world into the fashion industry β and the death of criticism, and why nobody seems to care.
CHAPTERS
00:00 Introduction
02:30 Fashion's creative collapse: the thesis
08:30 Greedflation & the $140,000 Dior dress
13:00 The craftsmanship con
15:00 Sweatshop scandals: Dior & Loro Piana's vicuΓ±a
23:30 The death of fashion criticism
32:00 Bernard Arnault & how he industrialized fashion
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Aug 10
41 min

John Galliano is the subject of the Costume Institute's 2027 exhibition and will be celebrated with his very own Met Gala. Galliano's biographer Dana Thomas β author of Gods and Kings, a dual biography about Galliano and Alexander McQueen β joins the show to talk about what this means. Amy and Dana recap Galliano's fall from grace and image rehabilitation β thanks to Anna Wintour.
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Aug 4
8 min

"Parisian Heist" author Jo Piazza joins Amy to break down the October 2025 Louvre robbery β the suspects, the mysterious "sponsor," and why authorities aren't sure the suspects are telling the truth.
Plus: why museum security is so basic, how art gets used to launder money and fund violent crime, the billionaire families who quietly run the art market, and what a $181 million Jackson Pollock says about the state of art and wealth.
(00:00) Introduction
(02:30) Recap: the Louvre heist, October 19, 2025
(04:30) The Isabella Stewart Gardner heist: $500M, still unsolved
(07:30) The arrests and the mysterious "sponsor" named Joe
(08:30) How basic museum security really is
(13:00) What was stolen: the Napoleonic crown jewels
(16:30) The Wildensteins & how art launders money
(30:00) The $60 billion shadow art market
(31:00) Restoring Empress EugΓ©nie's crown & the French jewelry houses
(38:30) The $181M Pollock & Jerry Saltz's takedown of the art market
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Aug 3
45 min

In this special episode in collaboration with the Power User podcast Amy Odell joins tech journalist Taylor Lorenz to trace the arc of wearable tech β from the abomination that was Google Glass to Snapchat's vending-machine Spectacles and the company's recent $2,000 flop. Also, why Meta's rollout of it's new $299 fashion-first AI glasses, odious as many find them, may end up being a smash hit.
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Chapters:
00:00 Intro β why everyone's arguing about Meta's glasses
01:36 Turning a camera into a fashion accessory
01:55 Welcome + the "hot surveillance summer" question
02:45 Google Glass and the original abomination
04:16 Snapchat Spectacles, vending machines, and a $130 flop
06:48 GoPro and how sports normalized filming everything
08:55 Ray-Ban Stories (2021) and the "creep" problem
10:57 2025: Oakley Meta and the first AI glasses
11:55 2026: low-profile frames, rhinestones, and AI as the real sell
13:25 The influencer rollout and the decline of fashion media
18:39 Why Kylie Jenner
21:40 How phones already normalized recording everything
24:56 Fashion, plausible deniability, and getting women on board
26:20 Will they actually sell? Meta's copy machine
29:19 The anti-screen crowd may be Meta's best customer
32:14 Beyond glasses: pins, pendants, and camera AirPods
35:29 Who owns the data? Facial recognition and the scary part
37:11 Zuckerberg, Bezos, the Met Gala, and OpenAI's fashion play
39:59 Snap's $2,000 flop and why ugly tech dies
43:03 Wrap-up
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Jul 30
43 min

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Town & Country editor Caroline Hallemann's new book is The Kennedys and the Windsors: The Story of Two Dynasties, One Born, One Made. She joins Amy to discuss the eerie parallels between these two dynasties.
Among the surprising stories in Hallemann's book: how Jackie Kennedy fought to keep wearing French designers as First Lady, why JFK Jr. wanted Princess Diana on the cover of George, the real story behind Diana's death and the ongoing conspiracy theories, and how Meghan Markle copied Carolyn Bessette's style. Plus: what Jack Schlossberg's blistering congressional loss means for the Kennedy dynasty.
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
03:00 Young Jackie at Miss Porter's and her enduring fashion influence
08:00 What "American Love Story" got wrong about Carolyn Bessette
10:30 JFK Jr. launches George magazine
14:00 Why John wanted Diana on the cover
20:00 Diana's death: what actually happened
32:00 The conspiracy theories that still swirl around Diana's death
39:00 Why Meghan Markle keeps copying Carolyn Bessette's style
53:00 Is Jack Schlossberg the next JFK Jr.?
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Jul 27
58 min

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Joy Cioci has been in fashion for 23 years β first with her own ready-to-wear and bridal brand, and for the past six years, as a private stylist to some of the wealthiest families in the country.
She joins Amy to talk about what that job is actually like: how she pulls $80-90K worth of merchandise on loan for a single client, why some of her clients refuse to play the Hermès "game," and why women spending $1.5 million a year on clothes have no idea what just dropped at Chanel.
CHAPTERS
00:00 Introduction
4:00 Who Joy's clients actually are
9:30 How pulling merchandise on loan from stores works
11:00 Inside an $80-90K shopping trip
18:00 What ultra-wealthy people actually want from their wardrobe
21:00 Finding rare pieces no one else has
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Jul 20
24 min

Lawyer and The Fashion Law founder Julie Zerbo makes her Back Row pod debut to discuss the latest Phia scandal. The startup, founded by Bill Gates's daughter Phoebe Gates and her Stanford roommate Sophia Kianni, was just found to be taking credit for affiliate sales it did not drive. People are calling it "fraud" but is it, really? Can the Gates name and a slew of celeb founders help them sail through this unscathed?
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
02:32 Phia's origin story and Phoebe Gates and Sophia Kiani's Stanford beginnings
09:16 The first scandal: Fortune's report on Phia's data collection
16:17 The second scandal: Bloomberg's cookie-stuffing investigation
19:18 Explaining cookie stuffing β and the Honey/PayPal lawsuits
27:23 Did Phia's investors do proper due diligence?
36:22 Could this be fraud? The legal answer
43:15 Does Phia's celebrity halo make it bulletproof?
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Jul 15
49 min

Veteran fashion journalist Dana Thomas returns for Fall 2026 couture awards! We talk about the hat wars at Dior, the wildest shoes, and the Chanel chicken bag that seems like it can't carry more than a pill or two.
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CHAPTERS
00:00 Introduction
03:18 What "couture" actually means
08:08 Award: Most Viral Front Row Celebrity
10:49 Award: Best Front Row Celebrity
13:37 Award: Best Couture Handiwork
16:58 Award: Best Shoes
20:18 Award: Best Bags
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Jul 13
25 min

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Taylor Swift married Travis Kelce at Madison Square Garden β and nobody's seen the photos yet. Will Vogue get them? Will anyone? Amy Odell is joined by veteran celebrity journalist Justin Ravitz (former Executive Editor at Us Weekly and Rolling Stone) to count down 13 burning questions about the wedding of the year β 13, of course, because it's Taylor's lucky number.
From the Dior couture ceremony looks to the guest list chaos (Zadie Smith? Wayne Gretzky? No Kardashians?) to whether this whole thing might end up as a theatrical release, Amy and Justin go through it all.
CHAPTERS
00:00 Introduction
02:50 #13 β What did she get talked out of?
06:23 #12 β What did Travis Kelce wear?
10:52 #11 β How close were they with their guests, really?
22:08 #10 β What was in the guests' NDAs?
25:33 #9 β Who leaked the wedding photos?
28:19 #8 β Were there religious elements? Was Adam Sandler ordained?
30:45 #7 β Did anyone try to slip them a gift?
37:27 #6 β Were there brand or corporate sponsors?
38:59 #5 β What were her cats doing?
40:54 #4 β Whose idea was the TT logo?
42:22 #3 β What celebrities were invited and said no?
44:57 #2 β Who was deliberately not invited?
51:59 #1 β Will the wedding be a theatrical release?
58:47 Final thoughts
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Jul 7
1 hr 2 min

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RoseMarie Terenzio and Liz McNeil β authors of β JFK Jr.: An Intimate Oral Biographyβ β return to the Back Row podcast in honor of Love Story's likely Emmy nominations. Terenzio assisted JFK Jr. at George magazine, and McNeil has covered him at People since the 90s, so they know what the show creators don't.
We cover what we didn't get to last time: Daryl Hannah's bombshell New York Times op-ed, what the show got right and wrong about Carolyn Bessette's distress over the paparazzi, the plane crash, and whether Jack Schlossberg is the next JFK Jr.
Chapters:
00:00 β Intro
04:00 β The actor who played JFK Jr. called RoseMarie
08:30 β Daryl Hannah's bombshell NYT op-ed
14:30 β The wedding: how reporters found out
23:30 β Was Carolyn really depressed and homebound?
28:00 β The plane crash: what actually happened
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Jul 6
31 min
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