We break down the 2020 Emmy nominations, including some very obvious snubs (8:01) and what they tell us about our current TV landscape (18:14). ‘I May Destroy You’ gives us a type of intimacy rarely seen on TV (33:11), and it’s clear that HBO spent a lot of money on ‘Perry Mason’ (45:00).Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

We break down the 2020 Emmy nominations, including some very obvious snubs (8:01) and what they tell us about our current TV landscape (18:14). ‘I May Destroy You’ gives us a type of intimacy rarely seen on TV (33:11), and it’s clear that HBO spent a lot of money on ‘Perry Mason’ (45:00). Hosts: <a href="https://twitter.com/ChrisRyan77">Chris Ryan</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/andygreenwald">Andy Greenwald</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

We break down the 2020 Emmy nominations, including some very obvious snubs

and what they tell us about our current TV landscape

‘I May Destroy You’ gives us a type of intimacy rarely seen on TV

and it’s clear that HBO spent a lot of money on ‘Perry Mason’

What Do the Emmy Nominations Tell Us About the Current TV Landscape? Plus ‘I May Destroy You’ and ‘Perry Mason.’

Every week, The Ringer's Andy Greenwald and Chris Ryan -- longtime friends and pop culture addicts -- break down the latest in TV, movies, and music.