Zooming Out
Zooming Out
Michael Kramer, Matt Choi, Chris Liu
Zooming Out is a podcast started by 3 college friends (Michael Kramer, Matt Choi, and Chris Liu), where they invite their friends on to zoom out from SIP, and share stories and lessons about their Christian lives from college and post-grad days.
Episode 22: A Church Planter's Journey ft. Noah Oldham
For Episode 22, Matt, Michael, and Chris, are joined by Noah Oldham - Lead Pastor at August Gate Church in St. Louis and Senior Director for Church Planter Deployment for the Send Network. Noah shares his journey as a church planter, from how it all began as a college student through different valleys and trials and reflects on the joy and purpose he's found in giving everything for God and being part of the church planting movement.
Nov 18, 2020
52 min
Episode 21: Plants
Michael, Matt and Chris talk about what church planting is all about, the grand vision of it, but also the nitty-gritty details. Matt shares about his experience as part of the Chicago church, and the three of them discuss their own excitements and fears about planting new churches.
Oct 30, 2020
54 min
Episode 20: Dating & Marriage
To celebrate hitting Episode 20, Michael, Matt and Chris are joined by Daniel and Hallie Shan (c/o 2016). The Shans share about growing into the "older couple" role and leading younger staff. They also dive into their initial impressions of each other as Cal students as well as how they progressed towards marriage. Hallie and Daniel talk about their experience relating to the opposite gender and having common vision for their lives. For singles, the Shans offer up their words of wisdom on navigating the area of dating and what steps they took to honor God in their relationship.
Sep 25, 2020
49 min
Episode 19: Being the Body
Matt, Michael and Chris are joined by Lucas Lam (c/o 2019), and they talk about Lucas's spiritual journey all the way from his golf-playing days back in freshman year. Also, Lucas recounts his tough 1st year out of college when he was able to experience the church coming together and being the body of Christ to support him.
Sep 15, 2020
51 min
Episode 18: Uncle Ministry
Matt, Michael and Chris are joined by their older brother Josh Kim (c/o 2014) and discuss the fun and the challenges of living in a big ministry house with a bunch of bros. They learn about what "uncle ministry" is all about, and Josh gives some major shoutouts, both positive (c/o 2020) and negative (c/o 2017).
Sep 5, 2020
37 min
Episode 17: Building Up
Michael and Chris are joined by their friends Jermaine and Kevin (c/o 2018) from Irvine and how they grew in their relationships despite being a small class, and what they've seen change and grow since the early days of the Irvine church.
Aug 28, 2020
49 min
Episode 16: Welcome Week
Chris, Matt, and Michael are joined by James Han (c/o 2014) and together they talk about their experiences during welcome week and chime in on why we do all that we do during welcome week (9:32). James also shares about his upcoming transition to being a parent (29:10) and about his experience starting up a new ministry on the East Coast (38:30).
Aug 21, 2020
49 min
Episode 15: Dynamic Duo
Chris, Matt, and Michael are joined by their friends Eric Kim and Gavin Lee (c/o 2018) and hear how they starting coming to church, what their relationship has been like in serving together over the years, and what they are thankful for and learning during SIP.
Aug 12, 2020
42 min
Episode 14: CPI Year
Matt, Michael, and Chris are joined by their friend Eric Ung (c/o 2018) who shares his journey from being an atheist to being a CPI, and he and Matt share stories from their year as Church Plant Interns and time together on a Scouting Team in Canada and Indiana.
Aug 3, 2020
42 min
Episode 13: Friendship
Peter Nguyen (c/o 2018) joins Michael, Matt, and Chris, and shares his story of how he came to seek out Christianity despite different obstacles. He and Matt also reflect on their friendship going back to high school and all reflect on how their peer relationships have guided their own walks with God over the years.
Jul 23, 2020
1 hr
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