Former Department of Justice attorney, Erik Petersen, joins Dave and Mike to talk about being a wildlife attorney for largest law firm in the country (DOJ). Learn more about how DOJ operates, and also some war stories. They talk litigation involving grizzly bears, wolves, wild horses (aka "range trash"), wildlife impacting Naval operations, driving a trolley in Boston, litigation as a fundraising mechanism, political bias among DOJ attorneys, Erik's mountain, and lots of other great discussion. Take a listen!