Teylor Smirl and John Holt ask you to read along as they explore books that challenge. We align our thinking with Kafka when he said "I think we ought to read only the kind of books that wound or stab us. If the book we're reading doesn't wake us up with a blow to the head, what are we reading for?" Tune-in each week for a lively discussion of books followed by conversation with guests from all backgrounds who share their experiences and enrich the reading. woundandstab.substack.com