In today's polarized political climate, finding common ground can feel like an insurmountable task. Yet, in our almost 40 years of friendship, we've learned that it's the tough conversations, the ones we might be a little hesitant to have, that often bring us closer together. As we sat down to discuss the events of January 6th, 2021, we realized just how much the divide between conservative and liberal media shapes our understanding of the world—and how essential it is to bridge that gap with empathy and curiosity.Our dialogue won't erase the divisions, but it's a step towards understanding—one conversation at a time. Let's keep talking. Let's keep listening. That's the only way forward.00:00 Introduction01:49 Navigating Political Differences06:01 Reflecting on January 6th: Democrat vs Republican10:19 Media's Role in Shaping Perceptions19:05 Conclusion: Would You Rather?

In this episode, I share the story of my extraordinary almost 40-year friendship with Jolene, two women who found themselves on opposite sides of the political spectrum during Trump's re-election in 2024. I open up about my journey as a Democrat, while my dear friend Jolene brings her Republican perspective to our conversation, showing how we've managed to maintain respect and understanding during one of America's most polarizing moments.I take you through my raw emotional journey - from my initial frustration on election night to my eventual realization that this was a call to action for Democrats like me. Meanwhile, Jolene shares her pragmatic approach to voting Republican, leading us into deeper discussions about Trump's popular vote win and America's clear desire for change. Through our conversation, we demonstrate how maintaining genuine friendships across political divides isn't just possible - it's essential in our increasingly polarized nation. This isn't just our story; it's a blueprint for having those difficult but necessary conversations in today's divided America.00:00 Introduction04:52 Having conversations about American politics with respect07:05 How to discuss differing political views14:19 Trump re-election reflections and a surprise win22:47 Local Politics and Personal Choices

Our story begins in the halls of the University of Iowa, go Hawks! It was there that two seemingly different paths intersected and a friendship blossomed. Despite our different upbringings—Jolene in little Pleasantville, Iowa, and me, Nicole, just across the Golden Gate Bridge in the bustling Bay Area—we became fast friends. And here we are, almost 40 years later, living in a world that often seems intent on drawing lines in the sand and choosing sides.So why "We've Got To Talk"? Because we truly believe that in this deeply divided society, the power of conversation can unite us. Our goal isn't to change each other's opinions, but to listen with curiosity, kindness, and empathy. And yes, to have a good time while doing it!So who are we?Jolene —I married a hot college football coach, raised three beautiful daughters, and we have lived all over the United States. I was raised Methodist, but converted to Catholicism. I'm a conservative Christian Republican, navigating the complexities of modern America.Nicole - After college, I moved to New York City and became a film/theatre/vo actor. In my early 40’s, I married an incredible man and became a stepmom to his wonderful son. With a Jewish dad and a Christian mom, I consider myself a California cultural mutt. I'm a proud liberal Democrat. So why should you tune in? If you're as intrigued as we hope, it's because this podcast is a welcoming space for diverse opinions and thoughtful discussions. We're diving headfirst into those hot-button topics that dominate today's headlines—political issues, social dilemmas, and ever-evolving events. Our goal is to share our genuine compassion and understanding, offering you insights into perspectives you might not encounter every day.The only rule? Kindness. There's no hate allowed in our little corner of the audio world. We invite you to join us on this journey and bring your friends along. We might not have all the answers or any of them—but we promise honesty, empathy, and a lot of heart. We hope our conversations give you a fresh outlook or at least entertain you as you go about your day.