In our second installment for  Episode 17, Graeme McMillan and I give you the comprehensive discussion of J. Michael Straczynski's departure from writing Superman and Wonder Woman--a discussion so comprehensive it consists mainly of old storylines from New Guardians and Justice League Detroit. Comic books about making kites, Loeb and Finch's Ultimatum, and Nick O'Teen also figure in to our cutting-edge news analysis.  Somehow. We hope you enjoy it, and thanks for listening!