Views from the Watershed
Views from the Watershed
Lize Mogel
This podcast tour explores the past, present, and future of NYC’s water supply in the Catskills. It tells the story of the complicated relationship between the Catskills and NYC that is forged by water infrastructure. You'll visit 10 resonant places in the watershed and hear firsthand, intimate perspectives from local people including a historian, a dairy farmer, a former DEP commissioner, a grave restorer, and a trail builder on what it means to be a part of the water system. (Please start at the Introduction episode.) Visit walkingthewatershed.com/podcasttour/ for more info and a tour map.
Gone But Not Forgotten
**If you're just joining this podcast, we recommend you listen to the earliest episodes first.** The Pepacton Cemetery is a remote and resonant place. Like all cemeteries, it’s a marker of loss-- not just the loss of individual people, but of entire communities that were displaced to build the water system. This episode features historian and grave restorer Marianne Greenfield. If you're taking this tour in person, please play this episode at the Pepacton Cemetery. Accessibility: the cemetery is not wheelchair accessible, as the terrain is mowed grass and sloped. However, you can view it from the side of the road. Please visit walkingthewatershed.com/podcasttour/listen.html to download a printed map, transcripts, accessibility info, and other important information
Nov 17, 2021
9 min
Putting the "Public" in Public Lands
NYC owns a lot of land and water in the Catskills. You can walk (or paddle) on some of it because people advocated for that access, and did the work to build paths through it. Just watch out for snakes in the pond! This episode features trail builder Ann Roberti, president of the Catskill Mountain Club. If you're taking this tour in person, please play this episode while on the Shavertown Trail or at the Shavertown Boat Launch at the Pepacton Reservoir. If you don't have a DEP access permit, please park in the area at the side of the road. Accessibility: the parking area is hard-packed. There is a ramp down to the reservoir at the north end of the parking lot. Please visit walkingthewatershed.com/podcasttour/listen.html to download a printed map, transcripts, accessibility info, and other important information.
Nov 17, 2021
12 min
Tapping the Delaware
New York City needed more water, it set out to tap the Delaware River (much to New Jersey's dismay!). The construction of the Pepacton Reservoir, which was completed in the mid-50s, and the displacement that it entailed, are still within the living memory of this part of the Catskills. This episode features historian Diane Galusha; Adam Bosch, DEP's Director of Public Affairs for the NYC water supply; and historian and grave restorer Marianne Greenfield. If you're taking this tour in person, please play this episode at the Shavertown Boat Launch at the Pepacton Reservoir. If you don't have a DEP access permit, please park in the area at the side of the road and walk down. Accessibility: the parking area is hard-packed. There is a ramp down to the reservoir at the north end of the parking lot. Please visit walkingthewatershed.com/podcasttour/listen.html to download a printed map, transcripts, accessibility info, and other important information.
Nov 17, 2021
10 min
After the Storm (Part 2)
Hurricane Irene raised concerns about the Gilboa Dam and the ability of water infrastructure to manage the massive amounts of water produced by large storms. How the DEP is preparing for the impacts of climate change in our future. This episode features Adam Bosch, DEP's Director of Public Affairs for the NYC water supply. If you're taking this tour in person, please play this episode at Devasego Park in Prattsville, on the banks of Schoharie Creek. Accessibility: the parking lot has a hard-packed surface which is accessible, and the park is mowed grass which is less so. Please visit walkingthewatershed.com/podcasttour/listen.html to download a printed map, transcripts, accessibility info, and other important information. Photo: NYC Department of Environmental Protection
Nov 15, 2021
4 min
After the Storm (Part 1)
In 2011 Hurricane Irene roared through the Catskills "like a fire hose going through an anthill." But yet, the Catskills persisted. The story of Hurricane Irene is one of devastation and resilience. It also illuminates the complicated relationship between human development, water infrastructure, and natural forces. This episode features Catskills journalists Lissa Harris and Tim Knight, who covered Irene. If you're taking this tour in person, please play this episode anywhere on Main Street in Prattsville. Accessibility: Downtown Prattsville is paved and wheelchair accessible. Please visit walkingthewatershed.com/podcasttour/listen.html to download a printed map, transcripts, accessibility info, and other important information.
Nov 15, 2021
15 min
The Whole Farm Plan
Dairy farming is hard. In the 1990s, new watershed regulations would have made it even harder, if not impossible. Farmers pushed back, organized and eventually collaborated with the City to come up with a plan that would benefit everyone-- the City would pay farmers to modernize, and farmers would be able to keep cow poop out of the water. This episode features Fred Huneke, retired dairy farmer.  If you're taking this tour in person, please play this episode at the Hubbell Homestead historic sign on Route 30. Accessibility: the turnaround has a somewhat uneven hard-packed surface, but you can view the site from your car. Please visit walkingthewatershed.com/podcasttour/listen.html to download a printed map, transcripts, accessibility info, and other important information.
Nov 15, 2021
10 min
A Seat At The Table
A DEP Commissioner, a Catskillian, and a bunch of lawyers walk into a bar...  The 1990s were a turning point for the relationship between the Catskills and NYC. The Clean Water Act changed the way the City needed to manage its water supply, so they tried to impose stringent regulations on the watershed. Catskillians were having none of that! As watershed towns got together and organized, a new DEP Commissioner came to town with a very different approach from her predecessors. A pitcher of beer broke the ice, and the rest is history. This episode features two people who were in the "room where it happened": Marilyn Gelber, DEP Commissioner from 1994-1996, and Alan Rosa, former Executive Director of the Catskill Watershed Corporation.  If you're taking this tour in person, please play this episode at the Catskills Watershed Corporation building in Arkville. The site is paved and is wheelchair accessible. Please visit walkingthewatershed.com/podcasttour/listen.html to download a printed map, transcripts, accessibility info, and other important information.
Nov 15, 2021
26 min
Upgrading Infrastructure
NYC’s water infrastructure is kind of like your household plumbing, but a lot bigger. What happens though, when, like your household plumbing, it springs a leak or needs to be replaced? This episode features Adam Bosch, DEP's Director of Public Affairs for the NYC water supply. If you're taking this tour in person, please play this episode at the Shandaken Tunnel Portal on Route 28. Accessibility: the small parking lot has an uneven paved and gravel surface, with a grassy edge -- however you can see the portal from your car. Please visit walkingthewatershed.com/podcasttour/listen.html to download a printed map, transcripts, accessibility info, and other important information.
Nov 13, 2021
5 min
Un-Muddying the Waters
Sediment, turbidity, and riparian buffers, oh my! There's a lot that can happen in a stream on its way to becoming NYC's drinking water. Watershed managers have re-engineered part of Stony Clove Creek so that it's cleaner and clearer...and doesn't flood downtown Phoenicia anymore. This episode features Tim Koch, Stream Educator and Hydrologist with the Ashokan Watershed Stream Management Program (AWSMP) and Cornell Cooperative Extension of Ulster County. If you're taking this tour in person, please play this episode at Simpson Mini-Park in downtown Phoenicia. Accessibility: the park has grassy turf and is not easily wheelchair accessible, but you can view the Stony Clove from the Main Street bridge which has a paved sidewalk. Please visit walkingthewatershed.com/podcasttour/listen.html to download a printed map, transcripts, accessibility info, and other important information.
Nov 13, 2021
10 min
Tough Choices
There’s a lot of water in the Catskills! Flooding is a constant threat, made worse by climate change, and most of the businesses in downtown Boiceville will eventually have to move because of it. A vacant lot is a marker of the profoundly tough choices the town has to make in planning for future flooding. This episode features Aaron Bennett, Deputy Chief of Watershed Lands and Community Planning with the NYC DEP. If you're taking this tour in person, please play this episode at the vacant lot next to the Nuvance Health parking lot in downtown Boiceville. Accessibility: the vacant lot has a hard-packed surface and is wheelchair accessible. Please visit walkingthewatershed.com/podcasttour/listen.html to download a printed map, transcripts, accessibility info, and other important information. Photo: Ashokan Watershed Stream Management Program
Nov 12, 2021
7 min
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