Vegcast 97 goes outside to talk about animals on their own terms with Lee Hall, the author of a book by that title. Among other topics, Lee discusses how animal rights theory needs to expand and embrace the interests of non-domesticated animals. We also hear a song from Zach, a new musical artist to Vegcast, and there is a Science Fact about new benefits of fiber, if you can figure out where fiber is and is not to be found.