616: Outmoded But Not Vintage from Upgrade

616: Outmoded But Not Vintage

1 hour 49 minutes Posted May 18, 2026 at 9:30 pm.

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Stephen Hackett joins Jason to talk old Macs, binned chips, and Apple AI. Then Jason discusses the darkest part of Steve Jobs's career with the author of "Steve Jobs In Exile", Geoffrey Cain.

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