This week, with Myke on sick leave, Jason is joined by Stephen Hackett to talk about Apple's first-party apps, the future of the Mac and VR pizza.

This episode of Upgrade is sponsored by:

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• Freshbooks: Online invoicing made easy.

Guest Starring:

Stephen Hackett

Links and Show Notes:

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The “Upgrade Brainball All-Stars” shirt

“Upgrade Your Wardrobe Hoodie” zip-up hoodie

Apple Launches Repair Program for Late 2013 Mac Pro Video Issues - Mac Rumors

iPhone 5se May Come in Silver, Space Gray, and Bright Pink - Mac Rumors

The history of the iPod nano — 512 Pixels

Mossberg: Apple’s apps need work | The Verge

Mailplane - Gmail for Mac

Welcome to Cast

AnyList - The best way to create and share a grocery shopping list.

The 20th Anniversary Mac — 512 Pixels

A Mac for all seasons: Why the Mac has so much staying power | Macworld

iMac G4 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

HyperCard - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Liftoff - Relay FM