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Greetings to the Living. Thank you for listening to the Up Is Down podcast and double-plus-good thank you to all who support this work. This time around I offer some perspective on the historical context of "the camps" everyone talks about. And the ones no one ever talks about.
Libertarians and conservatives alike go on and on about "putting us on trains and taking us to the camps" but tend to think there were just a handful of camps in WW2, concentration camps, and these camps were shut down immediately following the arrival of the Allied Forces. While that is partly true, the fact remains that thousands of labor camps and refugee camps were built by the Allied Forces themselves, including the US under Eisenhower, for every single German citizen in all of Europe for years after the end of the war.
Millions of everyday Germans, women, children and elderly, with nothing to do with the Reich, were forcefully expelled from every country in Europe and sent to camps. For years. Tens of thousands died and were disappeared on the way.
It's funny to me how many people cannot connect the dots of history together and arrive at the obvious conclusion that the same victors of the conflict decide who goes where and when upon redrawing the borders of the newly acquired geography and in every case mobilize that effort immediately.
It's even more funny to me how many fweeedom loving Americans simply ignore the history of not just these scenarios, but also bury their heads in goods and services when it comes to the history of the entire "civilized" world fueled by endless and constant bloodshed and ethnic cleansing. How does anyone think borders get drawn anyway? Negotiations over golf following a nice tea?
Obviously we Americans would never engage in genocide and the ethnic cleansing that follows.
Relevant Links:
German Expulsion From Europe:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyWx4p4hiaY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8SdcFFK1N0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWFeKPpVVJ4
Some Revisionist History (a very looooong documentary, 6hrs)
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=WWII+revisionist+history+greatest+story+never+told&&view=detail&mid=5C989644272E55D549235C989644272E55D54923&&FORM=VRDGAR&ru=/videos/search?q=WWII+revisionist+history+greatest+story+never+told&qs=n&form=QBVR&sp=-1&pq=wwii+revisionist+history+greatest+story+never+told&sc=0-50&sk=&cvid=B4F47B79938D492B8BFD296A0B405CD7
***Executive Producers Ep. 121 Up Is Down***
Blair Neuman
My Aunt Patty
***Associate Exec. Producers Ep 121***
Seth Klann
Steve Fox
Chris Jerome
Rebecca Anne Sinkula
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Libertarians and conservatives alike go on and on about "putting us on trains and taking us to the camps" but tend to think there were just a handful of camps in WW2, concentration camps, and these camps were shut down immediately following the arrival of the Allied Forces. While that is partly true, the fact remains that thousands of labor camps and refugee camps were built by the Allied Forces themselves, including the US under Eisenhower, for every single German citizen in all of Europe for years after the end of the war.
Millions of everyday Germans, women, children and elderly, with nothing to do with the Reich, were forcefully expelled from every country in Europe and sent to camps. For years. Tens of thousands died and were disappeared on the way.
It's funny to me how many people cannot connect the dots of history together and arrive at the obvious conclusion that the same victors of the conflict decide who goes where and when upon redrawing the borders of the newly acquired geography and in every case mobilize that effort immediately.
It's even more funny to me how many fweeedom loving Americans simply ignore the history of not just these scenarios, but also bury their heads in goods and services when it comes to the history of the entire "civilized" world fueled by endless and constant bloodshed and ethnic cleansing. How does anyone think borders get drawn anyway? Negotiations over golf following a nice tea?
Obviously we Americans would never engage in genocide and the ethnic cleansing that follows.
Relevant Links:
German Expulsion From Europe:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyWx4p4hiaY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8SdcFFK1N0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWFeKPpVVJ4
Some Revisionist History (a very looooong documentary, 6hrs)
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=WWII+revisionist+history+greatest+story+never+told&&view=detail&mid=5C989644272E55D549235C989644272E55D54923&&FORM=VRDGAR&ru=/videos/search?q=WWII+revisionist+history+greatest+story+never+told&qs=n&form=QBVR&sp=-1&pq=wwii+revisionist+history+greatest+story+never+told&sc=0-50&sk=&cvid=B4F47B79938D492B8BFD296A0B405CD7
***Executive Producers Ep. 121 Up Is Down***
Blair Neuman
My Aunt Patty
***Associate Exec. Producers Ep 121***
Seth Klann
Steve Fox
Chris Jerome
Rebecca Anne Sinkula
+++T H A N K Y O U A L L S O V E R Y M U C H+++
((((S U P P O R T THE S H O W))))
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BitCoinCash BCH: qzgwfjeu5vp634h84zzurw8kdah5j3cuxg8daq6qrk.
Venmo: @Dean-Reiner-1
YOU (OR YOUR BANK) CAN SEND A CHECK for ANY AMOUNT TO:
P.O. BOX 354
345 Westfield Street
Silverton, OR 97381
(you can even go so far as to schedule recurring, sustaining donations with your own bill pay services via your bank and by doing this you cut out the paypal/mastercard middlemen who charge fees and take a cut for themselves)
CONSIDER SUPPORTING THIS WORK BY ACQUIRING SOME ORIGINAL ART THROUGH THE GALLERY SHOP AT deanreiner.com
VALUE-FOR-VALUE:
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