
John Wrench is joined by Sam Gedge and Kirby West for a session of hot takes, hard questions, and changed minds. The trio challenge received wisdom about notorious doctrines and cases, debate how much of public interest litigation is about permanent resolution versus holding the line, and provide positions they’ve revised over the course of their careers. 
Docket in St. Mary Catholic Parish v. Roy
Employment Division v. Smith
Apr 30
44 min

John Wrench is joined by Diana Simpson and Patrick Jaicomo for an episode that crosses between profound and provocative. The trio reacts to the Supreme Court’s late-breaking decision in Olivier v. City of Brandon, weighing in on what it says and doesn’t say about the Heck bar. Then the conversation takes a turn toward Adams County, Ohio, where Afroman (yes, that Afroman) has just won a defamation case brought by the sheriff’s deputies who raided his house, instilling the trio with a deep sense of civic pride. Finally, the group swings over to Judge VanDyke’s dissental in Olympic Spa v. Armstrong, the one everyone is talking about—and not because of the legal issues.
Oliver v. City of Brandon
Lemon Pound Cake
Olympic Spa v. Armstrong (en banc denial)
Mar 24
58 min

John Wrench welcomes Josh Windham and Kirby Thomas West for a gameshow episode that proves Schiller’s insight that one becomes fully human through play. A series of games takes the trio through the highs and lows of legal practice, two truths and a lie about their legal careers, and some of the most famous quotes from Supreme Court opinions.
The full Josh argument
The Years of Lyndon Johnson
The Eras Tour
Feb 3
1 hr 6 min

As the year’s shortest day draws near, John Wrench is joined by Patrick Jaicomo and Anya Bidwell to discuss taking the Founders’ legacies more seriously; what’s likely to change about constitutional law in the next couple of decades; the challenge of repairing complex constitutional problems in a case-by-case judicial process; and how reporters might do more justice to the Justices. 
Plain, Honest Men
The Santa Clause
Regime Change
Ghost on the Throne
Maigret
Dec 18, 2025
1 hr 3 min

Your IJ roundtable is back with hot takes and tepid reflection. John Wrench, joined by Sam Gedge and Josh Windham, share tips on how to do law, do life, and do European-on-European colonialism. Subjects include what has shaped the way they think about the law, what they wish they knew earlier in their legal careers, the status of text, history, and tradition, and, naturally, the Dodecanese Islands.
Anti-Slavery Political Writings (ed. C. Bradley Thompson)
Death by Lightning
The Heroes
Originalism and the Illusions of Objectivity
Born Equal: Remaking America’s Constitution 1840-1920
My Thoughts Be Bloody
Nov 19, 2025
1 hr 12 min

With the new Supreme Court term underway, John Wrench welcomes Anya Bidwell and Anthony Sanders for a SCOTUS-themed romp—including which justice is the ideal dinner guest and the past case you’d most like to argue—followed by an extremely competitive lightning round of wide-ranging SCOTUS trivia.
Empirical SCOTUS on oral arguments
Wilkie v. Robbins
Youngstown Sheet & Tube v. Sawyer
Zbig biography
The Room Where It Happened
The Meaning of Everything
The Victorian Bar
Life, Law & Liberty
Between Two Fires
Oct 27, 2025
42 min

Constitution Day might have been September 17, but Diana, Patrick, and John are still celebrating. From the insight that rights come before—not from—the government, to the evergreen challenge of constraining power, the trio admire favorite features of the U.S. Constitution, propose amendments, and discuss the dangers of viewing rights through a partisan lens.
Extreme Punishment
Alien Earth
Sputnik
Judicial Time
Discworld
Sep 30, 2025
56 min

Lots of hot takes on the Supreme Court, the Supreme Court, and even as varied a subject as the Supreme Court. With sub-categories: whether the words “privileges or immunities” in Section 1983 mean anything at all, Harvard Forwards and Conservative Warrens, and class actions. Plus, what we’re reading and why ChatGPT is very sorry for the wrongs it has inflicted upon cite checkers.
Medina v. Planned Parenthood S.A.
Section 1983: A Strict Liability Tort
AI sanctions opinion
The Gun, the Ship, and the Pen
Chernow’s Mark Twain
The Tainted Cup
The Female Quixote
Jul 31, 2025
59 min

A new edition of everyone’s favorite legal grimoire has dropped, and John Wrench convenes Sam Gedge and Diana Simpson to ask the hard questions: Is the Bluebook a sacred scroll, or an eldritch horror that feeds on the souls of each new generation of lawyers? The party ponders the secrets revealed by a Bluebook insider, including the mysterious process behind some controversial changes in the newest edition. See, e.g., Bluebook at Rule B5.3 (discussing new “citation modified” parenthetical) (cleaned up). From there, they turn from one arcane text to another: Dictionaries are often treated as skeleton keys for unlocking original meaning, but it turns out they require careful handling lest they be misread or misused. The journey wraps with reflections on how—with the recent Skrmetti decision as a case study—public interest litigation often demands hard judgment calls about whether to press forward or hold back, how to weigh principle against timing, and what “victory” looks like.
Jack Metzler, Cleaning up Quotations
M. Burke Craighead, The Bluebook: An Insider’s Perspective
Scalia & Garner, A Note on the Use of Dictionaries
New York times piece on Skrmetti
Jennifer Mascott, The Dictionary as a Specialized Corpus
Jul 2, 2025
51 min

Done with oral argument at SCOTUS in Martin v. United States, Patrick Jaicomo and Anya Bidwell rejoin the rotation to yell at clouds and, along with this month’s host, give their unpublished opinions about what it’s like to argue before the Supreme Court, the presumption of regularity, universal injunctions, the moment of threat doctrine, appointed amici arguing cases, too-long briefs, and much else!
Case page in Martin v. US
Oral argument in Martin
Oral argument in universal injunctions case
Barns v. Felix
Medical Marijuana v. Horn
Easha Anand on Short Circuit about Horn
Red Rooms
The Gatekeepers
Patrick’s and Dan’s article
Jane Austen’s Bookshelf
Missing Molly
May 28, 2025
1 hr 15 min
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