
What if the opportunity you were shown wasn’t the full picture? In this episode, we go deep into breaking down the structure, tactics, and messaging used by Daniel and Thao Goebel, and how the system operates beneath the surface.We analyze how prospects are approached, how the opportunity is framed, and where critical details may not be clearly disclosed. From income representations to positioning strategies, this episode examines the gap between what is presented and what may actually be happening behind the scenes.Step by step, we walk through the pattern: how trust is built, how expectations are set, where omissions can occur, and how those omissions influence decision-making.We also explore how these systems sustain themselves over time through repetition, belief, and structure. This episode is not about speculation—it’s about examining patterns, claims, and experiences that raise serious questions. Everything is broken down clearly, methodically, and in a way that allows you to think critically for yourself.If you’ve ever been approached by someone connected to Daniel and Thao Goebel, if you’ve heard the pitch, or if something didn’t sit right but you couldn’t explain why—this episode will give you the clarity to see it.Because once you understand the system, you see it everywhere.🎧 Listen carefully.sources: The LTD Compensation Plan Exposed, & All The Information You Will Ever Need on Amway's Tools Systems - www.unplugltdtools.com Uncensored Evidence of LTD Operating Illegally As a Criminal Enterprise & a RICO Enterprise - www.youruplineisafelon.comInstagram Account - https://www.instagram.com/unplug.podcast?igsh=MXAxeWozcWJsamtsaA==TikTok Account - https://www.tiktok.com/%40unplugpodcast?_t=ZT-8twtcr4eYDW&_r=1&fbclid=PAb21jcAOBJ5ZleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZA81NjcwNjczNDMzNTI0MjcAAadG3lykDPWI_TMd_vS7HbkIkerY2BrzaSvgXYivY1UrFPQ_ryDi6dJlhVZaGQ_aem_sThW5zKieiHXGAU0CfbRZwWanna Reach Out to [email protected]
Mar 21
1 hr 9 min

They told you the LTD event fees were “just for rent.” They told you it was “just a service.”They told you there was no profit, no admission, and no sales tax obligation. That explanation only works if no one is getting paid. But they are. In this episode, we break down the real reason LTD must charge sales tax for EVERY LTD event. It's not simply because people attend LTD events, but because higher-ups receive income from EVERY LTD event. Once LTD event fees become a source of compensation for LTD higher-ups, the transaction changes. It is no longer a pass-through. It is taxable revenue. We explain this in plain language. Why calling admission a “service” doesn’t erase tax liability. Why labeling tickets as “venue reimbursement” fails the moment money is retained or distributed; and why control over pricing and access matters more than the words on the receipt. We apply the same analysis to Night Owls, Jam Sessions, Attitude Sessions, and Freedom Parties, showing why they are all treated the same under the law despite being marketed differently. We also expose what never gets shown: higher-ups earning more income from the LTD compensation plan than the Amway compensation plan, avoiding real profit-and-loss statements, and selling a lifestyle that often isn’t supported by their actual numbers. Finally, we explain the hidden risk of low level ranks in LTD being audited by the IRS. When sales tax isn’t collected for every LTD event, low level ranking LTD members that use LTD recipts-(from paying admission to LTD events) for taxes are the ones left exposed if an audit ever happens. No hype. No spin. Just the logic they never expected anyone to say out loud. This episode doesn’t argue. It documents. Once you understand the rule, the excuse disappears.Sources:The LTD Compensation Plan Exposed, & All The Information You Will Ever Need on Amway's Tools Systems - www.unplugltdtools.com Uncensored Evidence of LTD Operating Illegally As a Criminal Enterprise & a RICO Enterprise - www.youruplineisafelon.comFake Testimonials From Schwers Legacy Group - https://www.kevinandameliaschwers.com/testimonials.htmlSign The Petition Against Amway's Tools Systems: https://c.org/yw9VcnjGsnInstagram Account - https://www.instagram.com/unplug.podcast?igsh=MXAxeWozcWJsamtsaA==TikTok Account - https://www.tiktok.com/%40unplugpodcast?_t=ZT-8twtcr4eYDW&_r=1&fbclid=PAb21jcAOBJ5ZleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZA81NjcwNjczNDMzNTI0MjcAAadG3lykDPWI_TMd_vS7HbkIkerY2BrzaSvgXYivY1UrFPQ_ryDi6dJlhVZaGQ_aem_sThW5zKieiHXGAU0CfbRZwWanna Reach Out to [email protected]
Feb 7
1 hr 7 min

In this episode, we take you deeper than LTD ever wanted you to go. For the first time, we examine the letter their own Amway Double Diamond wrote. This letter is a documented accusation of withheld LTD conference money that cracks the entire LTD system open. From the free venues they charged you for, to the hotel kickbacks they secretly collected; to the wire fraud felonies sitting beneath every LTD ticket, every meeting, & every room you ever paid for. This episode exposes the shadows LTD built their empire in. This isn't about one conference. This isn't about one leader. This is about a Tools System operating in secrecy for decades; & the moment their silence finally breaks. The petition I'm launching is for every Tools System-(LTD, BWW, WWDB, N21, URA, & every network that profited in the dark and called it "business training"). If you've ever been in this world, ever paid into it; or ever wondered where the money really went, this is your moment. Sources:The LTD Compensation Plan Exposed, & All The Information You Will Ever Need on Amway's Tools Systems - www.unplugltdtools.com Uncensored Evidence of LTD Operating Illegally As a Criminal Enterprise & a RICO Enterprise - www.youruplineisafelon.comSign The Petition Against Amway's Tools Systems: https://c.org/yw9VcnjGsnInstagram Account - https://www.instagram.com/unplug.podcast?igsh=MXAxeWozcWJsamtsaA==TikTok Account - https://www.tiktok.com/%40unplugpodcast?_t=ZT-8twtcr4eYDW&_r=1&fbclid=PAb21jcAOBJ5ZleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZA81NjcwNjczNDMzNTI0MjcAAadG3lykDPWI_TMd_vS7HbkIkerY2BrzaSvgXYivY1UrFPQ_ryDi6dJlhVZaGQ_aem_sThW5zKieiHXGAU0CfbRZwWanna Reach Out to [email protected]
Nov 28, 2025
1 hr 42 min

In this episode, we expose LTD's Nationwide Money Laundering Scheme. We reveal how LTD's ticket event system has a Money Laundering structure built within it. We break down three stages of Money Laundering, explain how LTD's ticket revenue is disguised as "rental costs", and show why some Amway Platinums & above in LTD are unknowingly being pulled into crimes they never intended to commit. This is the truth LTD never wanted LTD members to hear, & once you understand it, you can't unsee it. Sources:The LTD Compensation Plan Exposed, & All The Information You Will Ever Need on Amway's Tools Systems - www.unplugltdtools.com Uncensored Evidence of LTD Operating Illegally As a Criminal Enterprise & a RICO Enterprise - www.youruplineisafelon.comLarry & Pam Winters Confess to Making False Income Claims & False Advertising About Amway - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6J7e1EBOfV8&fbclid=PAVERDUAOKhIZleHRuA2FlbQIxMABzcnRjBmFwcF9pZA81NjcwNjczNDMzNTI0MjcAAafPtcJnhabn5kDUOlwx8D49kgR4JkAJ3d8pLPdulkfybz4395G2-fOINDMufw_aem_uYsv1MyEvnAF-iKFZqFd3AInstagram Account - https://www.instagram.com/unplug.podcast?igsh=MXAxeWozcWJsamtsaA==TikTok Account - https://www.tiktok.com/%40unplugpodcast?_t=ZT-8twtcr4eYDW&_r=1&fbclid=PAb21jcAOBJ5ZleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZA81NjcwNjczNDMzNTI0MjcAAadG3lykDPWI_TMd_vS7HbkIkerY2BrzaSvgXYivY1UrFPQ_ryDi6dJlhVZaGQ_aem_sThW5zKieiHXGAU0CfbRZwWanna Reach Out to [email protected]
Nov 19, 2025
1 hr 41 min

In this episode, we expose the truth LTD hoped you'd never hear. At an LTD live event called Summit Conference, Larry & Pam Winters made false income claims, false advertised, and violated Amway's own QAS rules in front of the entire LTD organization. However, the real scandal came after the event. After the event, Larry & Pam secretly recorded a confession video-(where they confessed to making false income claims & false advertising at Summit) and only shared it with higher Amway ranking leaders. Low Level Amway Ranks in LTD never got the truth. They kept operating under false beliefs, & the correction/confession was deliberately hidden. This episode breaks down several laws that are violated from hiding Larry & Pam's confession from Low Level Amway Ranks in LTD. We will also explain why Larry & Pam are eligible for Amway termination, and why LTD as a system could be shut down by Amway. If you've ever been apart of LTD, recruited by LTD, or trained under LTD's Summit Conference teachings, you deserve the truth. THIS IS THE EPISODE THEY NEVER WANTED MADE....Sources:The LTD Compensation Plan Exposed, & All The Information You Will Ever Need on Amway's Tools Systems - www.unplugltdtools.com Uncensored Evidence of LTD Operating Illegally As a Criminal Enterprise & a RICO Enterprise - www.youruplineisafelon.comInstagram Account - https://www.instagram.com/unplug.podcast?igsh=MXAxeWozcWJsamtsaA==TikTok Account - https://www.tiktok.com/%40unplugpodcast?_t=ZT-8twtcr4eYDW&_r=1&fbclid=PAb21jcAOBJ5ZleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZA81NjcwNjczNDMzNTI0MjcAAadG3lykDPWI_TMd_vS7HbkIkerY2BrzaSvgXYivY1UrFPQ_ryDi6dJlhVZaGQ_aem_sThW5zKieiHXGAU0CfbRZwWanna Reach Out to [email protected]
Nov 16, 2025
1 hr 4 min

In this episode, we expose a recent confession Amway never meant the public to hear. This confession is a secret LTD members-only recording. In the recording, Larry & Pam Winters-(the owners of LTD) admit to violating Amway's Quality Assurance Content Standards. In other words, the owners of LTD admit what whistleblowers-(such as myself) have warned. The truth has finally broke through. This episode dives into the confession that has recently shaken LTD to it's core. In addition, this episode reveals how LTD's illusion has cracked, & what it means for every Amway Rep in LTD who believed "The Dream". Sources: Larry & Pam Winters Hidden Confession on Vimeo - https://vimeo.com/showcase/11968945Password to Watch The Hidden Confession - amwayltdThe LTD Compensation Plan Exposed, & All The Information You Will Ever Need on Amway's Tools Systems - www.unplugltdtools.com Uncensored Evidence of LTD Operating Illegally As a Criminal Enterprise & a RICO Enterprise - www.youruplineisafelon.comInstagram Account - https://www.instagram.com/unplug.podcast?igsh=MXAxeWozcWJsamtsaA==TikTok Account - https://www.tiktok.com/%40unplugpodcast?_t=ZT-8twtcr4eYDW&_r=1&fbclid=PAb21jcAOBJ5ZleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZA81NjcwNjczNDMzNTI0MjcAAadG3lykDPWI_TMd_vS7HbkIkerY2BrzaSvgXYivY1UrFPQ_ryDi6dJlhVZaGQ_aem_sThW5zKieiHXGAU0CfbRZwWanna Reach Out to [email protected]
Nov 12, 2025
1 hr 8 min

In this episode, we unveil LTD's shadow economy once and for all. In doing this, we expose some of the hidden LTD revenue that is kept secret from the IRS. Along with that, we inform listeners that every LTD event has untaxed admissions. In addition, we shed light on the reasoning behind paying in cash to attend LTD meetings, & paying for admission to view virtual LTD meetings. We warn low level LTD ranks of the dangers they possibly face with the IRS through their involvement with LTD. Lastly, we inform listeners on what actions they can take to put a stop to LTD's National Tax Evasion Scheme. Sources:The LTD Compensation Plan Exposed, & All The Information You Will Ever Need on Amway's Tools Systems - www.unplugltdtools.com Uncensored Evidence of LTD Operating Illegally As a Criminal Enterprise & a RICO Enterprise - www.youruplineisafelon.comFTC Hotline Number: 1-877-382-4357 Instagram Account - https://www.instagram.com/unplug.podcast?igsh=MXAxeWozcWJsamtsaA==Wanna Reach Out to [email protected]
Oct 29, 2025
1 hr 10 min

Kevin & Ameila Schwers; Brent & Brenda Harris commit MULTIPLE FELONIES through their Tax Evasion Scheme. This is not a formal episode. This is just a moment for me to gloat about how all of their illegal crimes are beginning to unravel 😅The LTD Compensation Plan Exposed, & All The Information You Will Ever Need on Amway's Tools Systems - www.unplugltdtools.com Uncensored Evidence of LTD Operating Illegally As a Criminal Enterprise & a RICO Enterprise - www.youruplineisafelon.comInstagram Account - https://www.instagram.com/unplug.podcast?igsh=MXAxeWozcWJsamtsaA==Wanna Reach Out to [email protected]
Oct 26, 2025
28 min

The rumors are true!!! For decades people have always wondered if The Winters are involved with Tax Evasion. Larry & Pam Winters & several other high level Amway Ranks in LTD are indeed committing Tax Evasion. In this episode, we expose LTD's National Tax Evasion Network. Through doing this, we uncover EIGHT FEDERAL FELONY OFFENSES LTD is committing throughout the U.S. Along with that, we will warn current Amway Distributers they are in danger of being audited & investigated by the IRS if they continue to file their LTD expenses for taxes. We provide solutions for current Amway Distributers on what they can do towards their taxes. Lastly, we give an action step on what listeners can do to stop LTD from DEFRAUDING THE U.S. with its Tax Evasion Network. Sources: The LTD Compensation Plan Exposed, & All The Information You Will Ever Need on Amway's Tools Systems - www.unplugltdtools.com Uncensored Evidence of LTD Operating Illegally As a Criminal Enterprise & a RICO Enterprise - www.youruplineisafelon.comIowa Attorney General Phone Number: 1-888-777-4590Iowa Department of Revenue Phone Number: (515)-281-3114Des Moines, IA IRS Phone Number: 1 844-545-5640FTC Hotline Number: 1-877-382-4357 FBI Hotline Number: 1-800-225-5324Instagram Account - https://www.instagram.com/unplug.podcast?igsh=MXAxeWozcWJsamtsaA==Wanna Reach Out to [email protected]
Oct 26, 2025
1 hr 35 min

Due to overwhelming evidence of fraud, Platinumships, Rubyships, Emeraldships, & Diamondships within the Schwers & Harris team will be set for revocation in the near future. Kevin & Ameila Schwers; Brent & Brenda Harris have MULTIPLE high level Amway ranked downline distributers that obtained their rank fraudulently. They violated several consumer laws and Amway's policies to obtain their Amway ranks. According to Amway rules, that makes all of these ranks void, fraudulent, & invalid. These downline members will have to repay all of their Amway earnings & possibly face termination from Amway. In this episode, we expose why high level Amway ranks in the Schwers & Harris team are fraudulent & not legitimate. We also brefly discuss the legal counterclaim filed against Schwers & Harris that will publicly expose their Deceptive Enterprise. Sources:LTD Compensation Plan Exposed, & All The Information You Will Ever Need On Amway's Tools Systems: www.unplugltdtools.com Uncensored Evidence of LTD Operating Illegally As a RICO Enterprise, & a Criminal Enterprise: www.youruplineisafelon.com Amway Customer Service Phone Number - 1 (800) 253-6500Iowa State Police Phone Number - 515-294-4428Iowa Attorney General Phone Number - 1-888-777-4590Call Ames, IA Panera Bread to Report Unregistered Business Opportunity Solicitation & Consumer Fraud: +1 515-956-4580Call Ankeny, IA Panera Bread to Report Unregistered Business Opportunity Solicitation & Consumer Fraud: +1 515-963-5090Call Des Moines, IA Panera Bread to Report Unregistered Business Opportunity Solicitation & Consumer Fraud: +1 515-309-1890Instagram Account - https://www.instagram.com/unplug.podcast?igsh=MXAxeWozcWJsamtsaA==Wanna Reach Out to [email protected]
Oct 25, 2025
46 min
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