Unchained
Unchained
Laura Shin
Why You Can't Opt Out of the AI Guardrails Race
12 minutes Posted Jul 22, 2026 at 10:08 pm.
Austin on what actually forces AI adoption in health care beyond the hype
Austin's claim that Claude Fable 5 solved the Jacobian conjecture, a 90-year-old math problem
Ram: doctors are already using AI for diagnostics, but the promise is still ahead of reality
Why Ram says AI adoption is self financing, citing Eli Lilly
AI on the battlefield: Ukraine's drone-based warfare shift
Austin's national security question: is opting out of the AI race even possible
Chris makes the case for finance style, principles-based AI regulation
Austin: there is no way to opt out of the AI guardrails race
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Austin Campbell's claim that Claude Fable 5 cracked the decades-old Jacobian conjecture opens onto a bigger question: why AI's real-world impact on health care is still lagging.
The conversation turns to battlefield drones in Ukraine, the national security stakes of AI guardrails, and why Chris Perkins thinks finance-style regulation could make AI more trustworthy, not less useful.
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Austin Campbell - Host of Bits + Bips, Founder of Zero Knowledge Group, and Adjunct Professor at NYU Stern
Ram Ahluwalia - Co-host of Bits + Bips and CEO of Lumida
Chris Perkins - Co-host of Bits + Bips and Head of Franklin Crypto
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This clip is from a longer conversation on AI adoption, national security, and financial regulation. Full episode here: https://youtu.be/YN0Pje70YtE?si=HVVnRCmYt3Q-G_qc 
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