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Laura Shin
Why CLOs Are Suddenly DeFi's Hottest Yield Play
7 minutes Posted Jul 10, 2026 at 7:00 pm.
Where the RWA market goes next, from the man building its plumbing: Niklas Kunkel
The yield trade heating up: why CLOs like Centrifuge's JAAA and Apollo's Acred are suddenly everywhere
Galaxy's first tokenized CLO, and why it's a far bigger deal than it looks
Trust no one: how Chronicle checks Galaxy's loan book against its own custodian
The looping trick that turns a 7% CLO yield into 14% or 21%, and the risk hiding inside it
What's coming next: tokenized REITs and equities
The SpaceX pre-IPO token question Niklas keeps getting asked
The catch nobody mentioned: why SpaceX token buyers never actually owned their shares
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Niklas Kunkel maps where the RWA market is heading next, from Centrifuge and Apollo's CLOs to Galaxy's first tokenized credit product, then turns to a cautionary tale: some SpaceX pre-IPO token buyers never actually owned the shares they thought they had.
Host:
Steven Ehrlich - Host of Bits + Bips and Head of Research at Sharplink
Guest:
Niklas Kunkel - Founder and CEO of Chronicle Labs
This clip is from a longer conversation on crypto oracles, tokenized real-world assets, and Chronicle Labs' work verifying them. Full episode here: https://youtu.be/HW9Cu_E8DnU 
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