WIRED's Senior Politics Editor Leah Feiger joins Zoë Schiffer, WIRED's Director of Business & Industry to discuss the ongoing fallout between President Trump and Elon Musk, and the future of DOGE.

Articles mentioned in the episode: 

• Conspiracy World Thinks the Musk-Trump Breakup Is a 'Psyop'
• DOGE Is on a Recruiting Spree 
• Silicon Valley Is Starting to Pick Sides in Musk and Trump’s Breakup
• WIRED Talked to a Fired DOGE Staffer About Who Was Really in Charge
• Trumpworld Is Getting Tired of Laura Loomer. They Hope the President Is Too
• The Epic Rise and Fall of a Dark-Web Psychedelics Kingpin

You can follow Zoë Schiffer and Leah Feiger on Bluesky: @zoeschiffer , @leahfeiger

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