Three Makes Baby Podcast
Three Makes Baby Podcast
Jana M Rupnow, LPC
Fertility psychotherapist, Jana Rupnow, interviews parents, donor conceived individuals and professionals about the challenges and dilemmas of assisted reproductive technology baby-making and the expect-able tensions between positive and negative feelings that come along the way when, instead of baby makes three; three makes baby.
Donor Conception Awareness Day: How to Join the Movement
Join fertility therapist Jana Rupnow as she shares how to participate in International Donor Conception Awareness Day 2025 and support donor-conceived advocacy around the world.
Apr 11, 2025
4 min
Eggonomics, Egg Donation Research with Dr. Diane Tober
In this special episode, fertility counselor Jana Rupnow invites Dr. Diane Tober, a medical anthropologist and associate professor at the University of Alabama, to discuss the intricate dynamics of egg donation. Dr. Tober delves into her research on egg donors and the global market for human eggs, providing insights into the experiences and challenges faced by donors. Dr. Tober shares compelling stories from her book "Eggonomics," including her eye-opening experience in a Spanish clinic observing an egg retrieval procedure, which shed light on the vulnerability and lack of recognition experienced by donors. Listeners will learn about the biopolitics of donor conception, the motivations and socioeconomic backgrounds of donors in the U.S. and Spain, and the ethical challenges surrounding donor anonymity and informed consent. The conversation emphasizes the need for better donor care and transparent practices, encouraging recipient parents to advocate for their donors and understand the long-term implications of donor-assisted conception.
Nov 26, 2024
1 hr 16 min
An Egg Donor's Medical Scare Prompts Her to Look for Recipient Parents
In this episode, we delve into Angela’s journey as an egg donor, and crucial medical discoveries that have impacted her and the children born from her donations. Angela shares her experiences from 2010 to 2018, emphasizing the importance of informing the families of her recent hereditary condition diagnosis and advocating for better transparency in the practice of egg donation.
Aug 14, 2024
43 min
Dr. Jill Maron on Donor Conception and Genetic Testing
Host Jana Rupnow interviews Dr. Jill Maron, Chief of Pediatrics at Women’s and Infant Hospital and Professor of Pediatrics at Brown University, who shares her experience as a neonatologist and a donor-conceived individual discovering her genetic origins at 46. Dr. Maron discusses the ethical implications of DNA testing, the unregulated donor system in the U.S., and the psychological impact of genetic revelations, emphasizing the need for protecting children’s autonomy and ensuring responsible reproductive technology practices.
Jul 9, 2024
55 min
Lindsay B on same donor siblings, DNA testing your child and more (Part 2)
Lindsay, a donor-conceived individual. continues to share her perspective on International Donor Conception Awareness Day, 2024. Learn one person’s perspective on controversial issues like donor anonymity, DNA testing, health information, and emotional ramifications. She shares how genetics significantly influence our sense of self and how comprehending biological lineage can be not only revealing but also liberating. importance of early and open conversations with donor-conceived children, fostering understanding, and acceptance. This episode highlights the integral role of a donor in a recipient’s identity formation and underscores the shared responsibility of parents to acknowledge and celebrate their child’s complete genetic heritage.
Apr 27, 2024
59 min
Lindsay B. Returns with New Narrative (Part1)
n this gripping episode of the ”Three Makes Baby” podcast, Lindsay, a donor-conceived individual, shares her journey of self-discovery and conception, shedding light on shifting dynamics in donor conception discourse. Lindsay’s narrative explores years of uncertainty, familial tensions, and ethical boundaries, resonating with the quiet struggles of donor-conceived individuals and emphasizing the need for education and transparency in donor conception.
Apr 27, 2024
11 min
Known Sperm Donation Program is Finally Available
The future of donor conception is here! This episode features my special guest Danielle of The Seed Scout. She shares her and her wife's path to parenthood, including the challenges they faced with sperm banks. Danielle and her wife's path to parenthood took them through the maze of sperm banks, encountering impersonal processes that left them feeling disconnected. Fueled by this experience, they opted for a known donor, taking control of their process and creating a better way for others. We explore their challenges, shedding light on the significance of openness in genetic origins and the importance of updated medical histories for donor-conceived individuals and their families. With a deep understanding of LGBTQ+ needs, Danielle shares invaluable insights into the legal complexities of parental rights in donor conception. She addresses potential parents' concerns about privacy. Sharing how known donors can enrich your family's story without intruding on your personal life.  The Seed Scout leverages their expertise to guide clients through every step of the process, ensuring a smooth and informed journey.  Connect with them on social media @theeseedscout
Mar 9, 2024
50 min
A Donor Conception Musical
In this episode of Three Makes Baby, Jana Rupnow is joined by Erin Maya to explore the world of donor conception through the lens of Erin’s groundbreaking musical, The Complete Picture. Together, they delve into the complexities of donor conception, debunking myths and discussing its impact on identity.
Feb 19, 2024
1 hr
Overcoming Secrets
April 27, 2023 is International Donor Conception Awareness Day. Link to IDCAD2023: https://donorconceptionawarenessday.com/ Link to educational courses for parents and CEUs for professionals CEUS: https://three-makes-baby-preparation-and-parenting.teachable.com/p/home Fertility challenges can cause intense feelings that make you want to withdraw and hide. It’s important to understand the difference between secrecy and privacy and how the shame of infertility may live on. Secrecy is when you actively withhold information from others, often out of fear or shame. This can be detrimental to your mental health and relationships as it creates a sense of isolation and can lead to feelings of guilt and shame. It takes a lot of effort and energy to maintain a secret, and the longer you keep it, the more it can weigh you down. On the other hand, privacy is when you choose to keep certain information to yourself or within a trusted circle. This can be a healthy way to protect your personal boundaries and maintain control over your own life. It’s important to remember that you have the right to privacy, and it’s okay to set boundaries around what you share with others. If you’re struggling with fertility challenges, it’s important to find a support system that you trust and feel comfortable opening up to. This could be a therapist, support group, or trusted friends and family members. By sharing your experiences and feelings with others, you can find a sense of community and support that can help you navigate this difficult time. While it’s important to protect your privacy, it’s also important to recognize when secrecy is doing more harm than good. By opening up and sharing your struggles with others, you can find the support and understanding you need to overcome fertility challenges and move forward with your life. #IDCAD2020 #movingtips secrecy #privacy #fertilitychallenges #mentalhealth #relationships #isolation #guilt #shame #personalboundaries #supportsystem #therapist
Apr 11, 2023
10 min
Anonymous Egg Donor Wants to Be Known
"Alot of times, donors are just viewed as genetic material." Melissa, an egg donor for two years, shares her experience with anonymous donation. Now that she has children she wonders what happened with her donations. She wonders if the kids are alright. She expresses her willingness to be open and connect with the recipient parents and children, while also respecting boundaries. If you'd like to learn more about how to prepare to connect, I've got some resources for you! Making Contact is a how-to guide to prepare for contact whether you are a donor, donor conceived person or recipient parent. Link for more: https://three-makes-baby-preparation-and-parenting1.teachable.com/p/making-contact
Feb 14, 2023
43 min
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