There Are No Tangents
There Are No Tangents
Lisa Van Hoever & Emma Scott
We’re Emma and Lisa, friends who talk a lot.We are both deeply curious, and one thing we have in common is a fascination with the human experience and what makes us the way we are. In this podcast, we discuss topics that go beyond the mundane in an effort to get to the heart of what it means to be human - in an unscripted, humorous, open-hearted way. We invite our audience to join us as we explore these important and sometimes unanswerable questions. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Going Deep with Would You Rather
Thanks for joining us for today's tangents! This week’s episode features the “deep” part of our “Would You Rather” game. These stumped us a bit more than last week's "weird" questions.“Deep” Would You Rather questions from gohen.com01:04 Diving right into the questions again01:17 Would you rather not be able to taste or not be able to see colors?01:54 Would you rather know how you die or know when you die?04:55 Would you rather the ability to change the past or see into the future?05:14 Would you rather be magical but live on earth or live in a magical land but be normal?07:50 Would you rather find your passion or the love of your life?10:45 Would you rather have an intelligent partner or a good-looking partner?13:14 Would you rather be able to fly or be able to turn invisible?14:08 Would you rather be stuck on an island for eternity all on your own or with someone you hate?22:20 17:45 Ta da! “Some of those deeper ones…that’s our schtick.”18:40 Once again, please share your answers. Click *subscribe* so you don't miss out on future episodes!Connect with us on Instagram @NoTangents or visit our site at https://notangents.my.canva.site/Contact Lisa: localcolorbranding.com or @localcolorbranding on InstagramContact Emma: emmascottcoaching.com or @theenneagramconnection on InstagramShoot us an email! [email protected]. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
May 16, 2023
19 min
Getting Weird with Would You Rather
Thanks for joining us for today's tangents! However, we’re a little less tangent-y?…tangential?…in this episode, as we decided to entertain ourselves (and we hope you) with a little round of Would You Rather. “Weird” Would You Rather questions from gohen.com01:05 Bummer - missed innuendo01:30 Reach out to us. We dare you.02:25 Lisa is ready to dive right in04:40 Would you rather have arms as long as Mr. Tickle or legs as short as E.T?06:48 Would you rather empty a swimming pool using just a fork or get in a swimming pool for half an hour with a jellyfish?10:03 Would you rather drink soup out of a farmer's welly or from a binman's sock?14:00 Would you rather have your name tattooed on your forehead or have no front teeth?16:10 Would you rather let a crusty old man drink milk out of your belly button every day for a year or drink milk out of a crusty old man's belly button every day for a month?17:28 Would you rather fight a kangaroo or a badger?18:20 Would you rather eat a wet loaf of bread or drink a pint of whipped fish?19:00 Would you rather live in a world where you dance instead of walk or sing instead of talk?21:43 Would you rather share a bed with a walrus or an eel?22:20 Please share your answers. And tell us what you imagine when you think of crusty old men.What would your answers be? Let us know!Click *subscribe* so you don't miss out on future episodes!Connect with us on Instagram @NoTangents or visit our site at https://notangents.my.canva.site/Contact Lisa: localcolorbranding.com or @localcolorbranding on InstagramContact Emma: emmascottcoaching.com or @theenneagramconnection on InstagramShoot us an email! [email protected]. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
May 9, 2023
22 min
Seeing in Images & The Inadequacy of Language
Thanks for joining us for today's tangents! Do you think in images? Do you ever have a difficult time articulating what those images look like or how you sense them, and what role does the heart center play? We tackle these concepts and more in today’s episode.01:42 Greetings and shoutout to our friend Josh03:00 Our brains have been abuzz with topics including thinking in images (How do we language this topic?) and do we think in discrete steps as Enneagram 6s?08:15 Do you think or process in images? Does everyone do that? 08:45 Lisa doesn’t hear a story without imagining it, which is both cool and hard10:00 The head center is about how we see and is this type of thing more prominent for head types?11:20 Human Design cognition (Lisa - inner vision; Emma - touch)15:00 Language and how the centers of intelligence communicate with sounds17:45 Language as problematic when the images derive from the heart center?19:54 Are some things just more difficult to articulate or is it because language isn’t a suitable substitute for the other centers that are wanting to speak their own language?21:25 Heart images feel much deeper than what language can necessarily convey23:50 “I can see it but I can’t communicate it”25:30 Listening with the head vs. listening with the heart30:35 Mismatch between speech and body language 31:33 How did we get here?!32:00 Future workshop collab?34:18 We can’t be amazing at everything or people would hate us. Facts.35:30 Even when you lose the language, the image and felt sense can still be present36:25 Listeners, answer our question of the day: Do you think in images?Click *subscribe* so you don't miss out on future episodes!Connect with us on Instagram @NoTangents or visit our site at https://notangents.my.canva.site/Contact Lisa: localcolorbranding.com or @localcolorbranding on InstagramContact Emma: emmascottcoaching.com or @theenneagramconnection on InstagramShoot us an email! [email protected]. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Apr 25, 2023
37 min
Lucid Dreaming, Personal Space and Social Dominance
Thanks for joining us for today's tangents! Buckle up…a surprise to exactly no one, we are diving right into a variety of topics including lucid dreaming, the concept of personal space, introversion and social dominance, punctuated by some giggles.01:22 Starting off with a bang03:05 Our mornings started off in tandem with lucid dreams08:30 What is lucid dreaming?13:35 Lisa researched interpretations of snake dreams13:55 Lisa wants to understand symbolic dream interpretations compared to scientific data on dreams15:35 Symbolism in the context of your life 17:57 Does dream interpretation match up with scientific research on dreaming?19:17 Anecdotes on introversion and personal space (city life vs. suburban life)22:35 Expectations of being neighborly 24:50 “I’m not being rude. I just don’t want to talk.”28:20 “What other people think about you is really none of your business.”29:05 Lisa muses incoherently on the concept of space: How much do we need? Is space a construct? Can we create our own bubble?29:57 Boundaries, the social instinct, and holding space 32:40 Neighborhood living as a social experiment34:10 Share your dreams with us35:00 Wrap-upClick *subscribe* so you don't miss out on future episodes!Connect with us on Instagram @NoTangents or visit our site at https://notangents.my.canva.site/Contact Lisa: localcolorbranding.com or @localcolorbranding on InstagramContact Emma: emmascottcoaching.com or @theenneagramconnection on InstagramShoot us an email! [email protected]. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Apr 18, 2023
36 min
The Allure of Flow, Finding Playfulness, & Following Our Intuition
Thanks for joining us for today's tangents! We're baaaaack. :) In this episode we explore the beauty of flow states, read some poetry, discuss "word of the year", and more. We also receive an update on how Lisa is acclimating to her new home. Questions for our listeners: How do you experience flow states? What does your intuition sound or feel like? Do you hate spiders (you'll see what we mean...)? If you're watching on YouTube, leave us a like/comment, and if you're listening on the podcast consider leaving us a rating and review. Much love!0:00 Intro1:12 "You are a sight for sore eyes"2:35 Update on Lisa's move to Asheville4:34 Emma's horrifying encounter with a spider8:30 Do you follow us on Instagram?10:00 Morning reflections and a poem16:45 Being in a state of flow22:00 What does it feel like to be in flow?27:00 Emma's word of the year29:24 L makes connections with E's Enneagram group35:05 Following intuition40:28 Do women have a stronger intuition than men...?46:43 Understanding intuition through an Enneagram lens51:15 Getting in the No Tangents zone51:45 Will anyone buy our merch?53:40 Brief trip to the saucy gutter55:10 Expressing our adoration for one another Click *subscribe* so you don't miss out on future episodes!Connect with us on Instagram @NoTangents or visit our site at https://notangents.my.canva.site/Contact Lisa: localcolorbranding.com or @localcolorbranding on InstagramContact Emma: emmascottcoaching.com or @theenneagramconnection on InstagramShoot us an email! [email protected]. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Apr 4, 2023
56 min
Attraction, First Impressions, & Comparing Our 6ness
Thanks for joining us for today's tangents! Just a couple of 6w7s fully embodying our s*xual appeal as we explore the concepts of attraction and first impressions. How strong are first impressions for you? If you're enjoying our episodes, please subscribe on YouTube and wherever you listen to your podcasts. A rate and review would be greatly appreciated as well! Sending you much love. 0:00 Intro1:25 How are you? & E's Cash Money t-shirt3:35 Quick plug...shower us with love4:50 Our recent guest appearance on another pod6:07 S*xual appeal of Type 6; "can't nobody hold me down today"7:35 Lisa's identity shift; "just a couple of 6w7s..."9:25 Back to attraction 12:50 "I like to have something to push off of..."17:12 Energetic first impressions 22:48 Nuancing our differences to first impressions; "Yes" "Neutral" & "No"24:25 Lisa provides an example of a "hard no"28:00 When people switch between "yes" "neutral" and "no"31:48 Comparing our 6ness and trifix38:20 Sunk cost fallacy39:45 6s looking for evidence to justify their opinions about people44:20 Does irritation lead to relationships "completing their cycle"?48:40 "I'd like to tap that...topic" ;)49:35 Our pod is going to take a short break due to LVH's move50:30 What topics would you like to hear us chat about? Let us know!Click *subscribe* so you don't miss out on future episodes!Connect with us on Instagram @NoTangents or visit our site at https://notangents.my.canva.site/Contact Lisa: localcolorbranding.com or @localcolorbranding on InstagramContact Emma: emmascottcoaching.com or @theenneagramconnection on InstagramShoot us an email! [email protected]. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Mar 7, 2023
52 min
Gifts of the Enneagram and the Centers of Intelligence with Marika Litz (Part 2)
*Be sure to check out the other half of our interview with Marika*Thanks for joining us for today's tangents! Joining us for this episode is our guest Marika Litz, who helps us explore the gifts of the Enneagram as a self-awareness tool, the centers of intelligence, the angst of Enneagram 6s, and much more.01:30 Diving right into Enneagram talk / Lisa’s official Enneagrammer typing05:15 Marika’s Enneagram type and reevaluation06:50 Oh - welcome to our awesome guest Marika Litz07:15 How Emma and Marika met08:55 Marika’s background11:40 Marika’s Enneagram study journey and feeling a sense of belonging17:20 Why we are afraid of speaking up in groups and taking up space22:20 Lisa’s 7 wing and discussion about overlays24:25 Marika’s recap of and takeaways from the Enneagram School centers of intelligence class / Josh Lavine’s developmental model and object relations31:15 Full-on rejection mode and body center observation34:25 Enneagram 1s can’t numb themselves to an irritant35:20 The gifts of the Enneagram37:13 Lisa interjects with a question: What was Marika’s first impression of Emma?40:10 Marika’s family discussion about anxiety and innate sense of ungroundedness as Enneagram 6s42:56 Marika describes their sense of anxiety and preference for “angst” as a descriptor48:00 Overcoming the idea of “what is wrong with me?”49:00 “We are a part of the creating…”49:54 Feeling that the heart is untrustworthy and what happens when we experience identity shifts52:00 Does Lisa relate to any of this 6 stuff?58:00 The scrambling of the centers of intelligence01:02:10 The role of self-observation and when established Enneagram language doesn’t resonate01:07:13 The Enneagram and awareness of “what’s going on behind the curtain”01:08:48 Our ego is set up to protect us and appreciating when it performs its function01:11:35 Inner authority and state of feeling unsettled01:14:26 One of the gifts of the 601:15:25 The beauty (and traps) of the head center 01:21:13 Overlapping wisdom traditions on the three centers of intelligence01:23:09 Wrapping up the convoCheck out Marika's content on IG @enneagrampoint6Click *subscribe* so you don't miss out on future episodes!Connect with us on Instagram @NoTangents or visit our site at https://notangents.my.canva.site/Contact Lisa: localcolorbranding.com or @localcolorbranding on InstagramContact Emma: emmascottcoaching.com or @theenneagramconnection on InstagramShoot us an email! [email protected]. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Feb 28, 2023
34 min
Gifts of the Enneagram and the Centers of Intelligence with Marika Litz (Part 1)
*Be sure to check out the other half of our interview with Marika*Thanks for joining us for today's tangents! Joining us for this episode is our guest Marika Litz, who helps us explore the gifts of the Enneagram as a self-awareness tool, the centers of intelligence, the angst of Enneagram 6s, and much more.01:30 Diving right into Enneagram talk / Lisa’s official Enneagrammer typing05:15 Marika’s Enneagram type and reevaluation06:50 Oh - welcome to our awesome guest Marika Litz07:15 How Emma and Marika met08:55 Marika’s background11:40 Marika’s Enneagram study journey and feeling a sense of belonging17:20 Why we are afraid of speaking up in groups and taking up space22:20 Lisa’s 7 wing and discussion about overlays24:25 Marika’s recap of and takeaways from the Enneagram School centers of intelligence class / Josh Lavine’s developmental model and object relations31:15 Full-on rejection mode and body center observation34:25 Enneagram 1s can’t numb themselves to an irritant35:20 The gifts of the Enneagram37:13 Lisa interjects with a question: What was Marika’s first impression of Emma?40:10 Marika’s family discussion about anxiety and innate sense of ungroundedness as Enneagram 6s42:56 Marika describes their sense of anxiety and preference for “angst” as a descriptor48:00 Overcoming the idea of “what is wrong with me?”49:00 “We are a part of the creating…”49:54 Feeling that the heart is untrustworthy and what happens when we experience identity shifts52:00 Does Lisa relate to any of this 6 stuff?58:00 The scrambling of the centers of intelligence01:02:10 The role of self-observation and when established Enneagram language doesn’t resonate01:07:13 The Enneagram and awareness of “what’s going on behind the curtain”01:08:48 Our ego is set up to protect us and appreciating when it performs its function01:11:35 Inner authority and state of feeling unsettled01:14:26 One of the gifts of the 601:15:25 The beauty (and traps) of the head center 01:21:13 Overlapping wisdom traditions on the three centers of intelligence01:23:09 Wrapping up the convoCheck out Marika's content on IG @enneagrampoint6Click *subscribe* so you don't miss out on future episodes!Connect with us on Instagram @NoTangents or visit our site at https://notangents.my.canva.site/Contact Lisa: localcolorbranding.com or @localcolorbranding on InstagramContact Emma: emmascottcoaching.com or @theenneagramconnection on InstagramShoot us an email! [email protected]. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Feb 28, 2023
51 min
Soulmates, Grief, Typing Videos, & Astrology
Thanks for joining us for today's tangents! Do you believe in soulmates? How do you process grief? How do you see yourself and how do others see you? Can astrology help us make sense of anything? These are a few of the concepts we explore in this beefy episode. It is with open and tender hearts that we humbly submit this conversation to you. If you enjoy it, we'd love for you to leave us a like, comment, or hit us up on Insta  @notangents . Finally, if you're enjoying our episodes, please subscribe on YouTube and wherever you listen to your podcasts. Sending you much love. P.S. In this episode we explore Lisa's typing video submission. She has since received her typing results (!!!) and we have a juicy convo coming out in our next episode with our friend and special guest, Marika. Definitely stay tuned!0:00 Intro1:20 Starting off crying...again. Plus, human design references.4:00 Grief keeps slapping Emma5:00 Diving into soulmate discussion7:40 "I feel like you're one of my soulmates." More tears.9:45 Image of the heart rehydrating11:00 "We're not using this video." Plot twist...we used it.12:15 What are soulmates? Are they real?13:40 Time "feels like it doesn't exist" with certain people18:10 Feeling a magnetic pull toward certain people 21:10 Lisa's Enneagrammer typing video21:50 People can't get enough of our chemistry ;)23:20 Is Lisa a narcissist? Is Emma a narcissist for Lisa?24:15 Answering the "what are/were your greatest life goals?" question28:30 How do we react when we're put on the spot to share about ourselves?29:20 Answering the "what are your best and worst qualities?" question31:40 Not wanting to be pinned down & why we respond this way33:10 What typing questions were the hardest to answer?36:50 Are we both clouds? Let's move into astrology...41:00 Discussing our sun, moon, and rising signs. Linking to different elements47:35 Plea for more experts48:00 We took y'all on a ride today49:00 Who cried more?50:00 Lisa is highly competent & Emma has blind trust51:20 Lisa edifies Emma and she's able to receive it.52:30 Taking our listeners on a pleasure cruise.Click *subscribe* so you don't miss out on future episodes! Connect with us on Instagram @NoTangents or visit our site at https://notangents.my.canva.site/Contact Lisa: localcolorbranding.com or @localcolorbranding on InstagramContact Emma: emmascottcoaching.com or @theenneagramconnection on InstagramShoot us an email! [email protected]. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Feb 21, 2023
53 min
Shifting Gears with Karrie and Dominique Pt. 2
Thanks for joining us for today's tangents! We are thrilled to share the first part of our next Shifting Gears installment with Karrie Brandt and Dominique Woodward, coaches and co-hosts of the Awakened and Alive (After 40) podcast.01:14 Introducing Dominique, including a background with unresolved trauma, quieting her voice, and an a-ha moment03:40 Peeling back the layers of conditioning05:00 Diving into Human Design and HD certification05:38 Looking at each other through a lens of compassion07:30 Desire to help people at a deeper level to create shifts10:00 Holding others accountable to their own growth12:15 What is the purpose? 12:40 Dominique’s Enneagram type15:30 Intersection of trauma-informed coaching and Human Design18:45 The Three Projectors19:10 Karrie sees her Enneagram number and Human Design type as being at odds21:52 Projector conditioning and burnout24:30 Saturn Return25:35 To take this to astrology…26:45 How Dominique manages her energy29:40 Usefulness of Human Design authority, body awareness, etc.34:30 Invisible means safe35:20 Human Design as a self awareness tool36:20 The overlaps of our podcasting duos37:14 Dominique’s takeaways from her major shifts38:00 Karrie’s takeaways from her major shifts43:20 Wrap upKarrie, certified Enneagram coach, is on IG @ennalignmentcoDominique, Human Design and trauma-informed coach, is on IG @dominiquekwoodwardPlease subscribe to their delightful podcast wherever you get your pods and check them out on IG as well @awakenedandalivepodcast Click *subscribe* so you don't miss out on future episodes!Connect with us on Instagram @NoTangents or visit our site at https://notangents.my.canva.site/Contact Lisa: localcolorbranding.com or @localcolorbranding on InstagramContact Emma: emmascottcoaching.com or @theenneagramconnection on InstagramShoot us an email! [email protected]. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Feb 14, 2023
44 min
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