
WHAT IS A DOULA?
Full-spectrum doula and community educator Jenna “JB” Brown of Love Over Fear Wellness joins Caitlin for a conversation about what a doula is, the intersection of reproductive justice and anti-capitalism, queer and trans inclusion in care systems, gender and transition work & being a doula in the online space.
LOVE OVER FEAR WELLNESS AND BIRTH, LLC
Jenna “JB” Brown
(They/them/theirs or he/him/his)
Transmasc non-binary full-spectrum doula & educator
Website: https://loveoverfearwellness.com
Resource Page: https://loveoverfearwellness.com/resources/
The Love over Fear Community Fund: https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/loveoverfearwellness
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/loveoverfearwellness/
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Producers: Molly Hennighausen, Caitlin Smith Rapoport
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Nov 2, 2021
58 min

Join our host Caitlin for PART II of her audio journals from her third trimester of pregnancy, and a conversation with her partner about their birth story and transition into parenthood.
Part I is Episode 9 and can be found in our archives.
RESOURCES THAT INFORMED THIS EPISODE:
RAISING THEM: Our Adventure in Gender Creative Parenting By Kyl Myers
https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/raising-them-kyl-myers/1134799521
JENNA “JB” BROWN: Queer Doula & Radical Educator Austin, TX and online
https://loveoverfearwellness.com
Learn about birthing advocacy, queer birth workers & full spectrum doulas
https://www.instagram.com/birthingadvocacy/
THE DOWN THERE:
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CREDITS:
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Producers: Molly Hennighausen, Caitlin Smith Rapoport
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Sep 7, 2021
1 hr 34 min

LET’S TALK ABORTION AND EMPATHY WITH DR. DAVID L BERRY
Our guest today is Dr David L Berry, founder and president of Austin Perinatal Associates. Dr Berry is fourth generation physician, father of four daughters, a true Texan, and an expert in medical and obstetric complications of pregnancy. He works with patients who have common preexisting conditions like diabetes, hypertension, thyroid disorder, to folks with multiple pregnancy losses, and more complex diseases such as cancer, HIV/AIDS and many other issues.
Beyond his practice, Dr. Berry provides expert witness testimony in abortion cases at the state level.
His experience with high risk pregnancy, the depths of complications he’s dealt with, and his work in obstetrics makes him an ideal candidate for this work, as does his empathy for both the pregnant person and the fetus. We talk about some of the many pregnancy related complications he’s dealt with, circumstances around abortion, what kinds of abortions are performed at the different stages of pregnancy, empathy in the medical field, and how all of these inform his testimony and personal views- not just on abortion, but how we treat one another.
Austin Perinatal Associates:
https://www.facebook.com/austinperinatal
https://www.austinperinatal.com/dr-david-berry
Ordinary Equality Podcast:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ordinary-equality/id1492330633
THE DOWN THERE:
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CREDITS:
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Producers: Molly Hennighausen, Caitlin Smith Rapoport
Logo Design: Jean Kim Studio
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Disclaimer: Health links are made available for educational purposes only, and should not be interpreted as medical advice. All health information should be discussed with your healthcare provider.
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Jun 1, 2021
1 hr 4 min

What does it mean to live in the light?
In our last episode, libby spoke with us about her bipolar, experience with postpartum psychosis, and learning to live with her diagnosis.
In part 2, Libby is joined by her husband Caleb and mother Ann to talk about working through hard things together as a family, the unexpected joys they found in a time of crisis, and what it means to live in the light.
Learn More about World Bipolar Day: http://www.worldbipolarday.org
The Motherhood Center of NY: https://www.themotherhoodcenter.com(212) 335-0034
Postpartum Support International: postpartum.net
Call the PSI helpline 24/7 toll free at 1800 944 4773, or send a text to 503 894 9453 They are there to listen, answer questions, & connect you with local resources.
Text the national crisis hotline for free from anywhere in the US, any time, about any type of crisis by texting HOME all caps to 741741.
Call the National Suicide Prevention Hotline at 1800 273 8255 for yourself or someone else. It’s free and confidential 24/7. They are there to listen, and will not immediately call police.
In an emergency please dial 911 for immediate assistance.
THE DOWN THERE:
VISIT US! at thedowntherepodcast.com to learn more about our show, find resources from show notes, a transcript of an episode, or send us an email.
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CREDITS:
Music, Sound Design, Editing: Kate Marvin
Producers: Molly Hennighausen, Caitlin Smith Rapoport
Logo Design: Jean Kim Studio
Thanks for listening!
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Apr 20, 2021
1 hr 1 min

What does it mean to have bipolar? A few months postpartum with her child, Libby did not feel like herself. Many new parents experience anxiety and depression, but this was something different. After a harrowing day and sleepless night, Libby was checked into a psychiatric ward where she was diagnosed with bipolar and postpartum psychosis. This is her story of those early days, her treatment, diagnoses, and learning to live with bipolar as a part of her life going forward. This episode is released on March 30th to celebrate World Bipolar Day and Libby's bravery in telling her story.
Learn More about World Bipolar Day: http://www.worldbipolarday.org
The Motherhood Center of NY: https://www.themotherhoodcenter.com (212) 335-0034
Postpartum Support International: postpartum.net
Call the PSI helpline 24/7 toll free at 1800 944 4773, or send a text to 503 894 9453 They are there to listen, answer questions, & connect you with local resources.
Text the national crisis hotline for free from anywhere in the US, any time, about any type of crisis by texting HOME all caps to 741741.
Call the National Suicide Prevention Hotline at 1800 273 8255 for yourself or someone else. It’s free and confidential 24/7. They are there to listen and will not immediately call police.
In an emergency please dial 911 for immediate assistance.
Bipolar and postpartum psychosis definitions from:
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/bipolar-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20355955
https://www.dbsalliance.org/education/bipolar-disorder/
https://www.webmd.com/bipolar-disorder/default.htm
https://www.postpartum.net/learn-more/postpartum-psychosis/
https://womensmentalhealth.org/specialty-clinics/postpartum-psychiatric-disorders/
https://www.mghp3.org/about-postpartum-psychosis
THE DOWN THERE:
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FOLLOW US ON INSTAGRAM! @thedowntherepodcast for fun DownThere facts, info about our guests, accounts we <3, and much more https://www.instagram.com/thedowntherepodcast/
CREDITS:
Music, Sound Design, Editing: Kate Marvin
Producers: Molly Hennighausen, Caitlin Smith Rapoport
Logo Design: Jean Kim Studio
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Mar 30, 2021
1 hr 1 min

Join our host Caitlin as she shares audio journals compiled over the first six months of her pregnancy. You’ll hear Caitlin learning in real time as she explores her fears, hopes, insecurities, physical changes, gender feels, her own privileges and biases, pregnancy milestones, musings on the miracle of life, partnership, and much more.
BOOKS THAT INFORMED THIS EPISODE:
Raising Them: Our Adventure in Gender Creative Parenting By Kyl Myers
https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/raising-them-kyl-myers/1134799521
Expecting Better: why the conventional pregnancy wisdom is wrong- and what you really need to know By Emily Oster
https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/310896/expecting-better-by-emily-oster/
Cribsheet: a data-driven guide to better, more relaxed parenting, from birth to preschool
By Emily Oster
https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/572658/cribsheet-by-emily-oster/
BUY BLACK OWNED FROM THESE BOOKSTORES ACROSS THE COUNTRY:
https://lithub.com/you-can-order-today-from-these-black-owned-independent-bookstores/
PERINATAL RESOURCES:
Learn about birthing advocacy, queer birth workers & full spectrum doulas https://www.instagram.com/birthingadvocacy/
Birth From The Earth, providing holistic well womb-man & midwifery care, childbirth ed,
birth & postpartum care, lactation support, and birth worker training in NYC
INFO: https://birthfromtheearth.vpweb.com
FOLLOW: on Instagram @birthingplacebx
DONATE HERE to the scholarship and indicate this is for The Amber Rose Isaac Access to Home Birth Scholarship: Venmo @Birthfromtheearth. DONATE HERE to the birth center: https://linktr.ee/birthingplacebx
The Motherhood Center of NYC, providing care for perinatal mood & anxiety disorders, support groups and more https://www.themotherhoodcenter.com
Planned Parenthood, always: https://www.plannedparenthood.org
THE DOWN THERE:
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CREDITS:
Music, Sound Design, Editing: Kate Marvin
Producers: Molly Hennighausen, Caitlin Smith Rapoport
Logo Design: Jean Kim Studio
Thanks for listening!
xoxo
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Feb 28, 2021
1 hr 5 min

What is Electroconvulsive Therapy, or ECT?
For some, it’s a safe and effective way to ease symptoms of clinical depression when medication isn’t enough. Join us for our conversation with Elizabeth, where they destigmatize and demystify this treatment through the lens of their own experience.
Also in this episode: The relationship between mental health, emotional health, depression, and eating disorders. How to support eating and mental health. Staying accountable to your goals. Simple ways to show up for one another, and stay connected in isolation.
RESOURCES:
Project Heal breaks down systemic, healthcare, and financial barriers to eating disorder treatment. https://www.theprojectheal.org/
NEDA supports individuals and families affected by eating disorders, and serves as a catalyst for prevention, cures and access to quality care. https://www.nationaleatingdisorders.org/
The National Suicide Helpline: 800-273-8255, https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org
THE DOWN THERE:
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CREDITS:
Music, Sound Design, Editing: Kate Marvin
Producers: Molly Hennighausen, Caitlin Smith Rapoport
Logo Design: Jean Kim Studio
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Jan 26, 2021
37 min

A Unique First Period for a First Generation American
Pirronne tells us about her upbringing as a first generation Iranian American, being the only middle eastern kid in predominantly white schools, a uniquely defining first period, and how those experiences shaped her relationship to her body and her menstrual cycle. Also in this episode: conservative Jewish ideology and practices, publicly embracing the power of your period, and not dimming your shine to make the dominant culture comfortable.
Learn more about Pirronne and her work at pirronne.com
Maia Directors is a consulting service for organizations and artists engaging with stories from the Middle East, North Africa, and South Asia (MENASA). Learn more at maiadirectors.com
THE DOWN THERE:
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CREDITS:
Music, Sound Design, Editing: Kate Marvin
Producers: Molly Hennighausen, Caitlin Smith Rapoport
Logo Design: Jean Kim Studio
VOTING RIGHTS:
Donate & get involved with Fair Fight! fairfight.com
Support The New Georgia Project! Find out more and donate at newgeorgiaproject.org
Get involved & donate to Black Voters matter at blackvotersmatterfund.org
Go to https://votesaveamerica.com/state/georgia/to take action, no mater where you are
BLACK LIVES MATTER every day blacklivesmatter.com
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Dec 29, 2020
49 min

Why is weight-inclusive care important? Molly Hennighausen first remembers engaging in disordered eating behavior at age 9. Molly discusses Health At Every Size, the racist and sexist history of BMI, their treatment experience, how doctor's treated them differently in a larger body, and how to curate their world to prevent intrusive thoughts from sneaking in.
While we do discuss eating disorders, specifically bulimia and anorexia, we do not go into detailed behaviors other than defining the diagnosis criteria. Also mentioned are GERD (Gastroesophageal Reflux Disease), Barrett's Esophagus, and how to push for more weight-inclusive care at the doctor's office.
Visit Molly's photography website Outdoor Chronicles Photography HERE : https://www.outdoorchroniclesphotography.com
Visit Molly's instagram Outdoor_Chronicles HERE https://www.instagram.com/outdoor_chronicles/
Read Molly's essay about shopping for a wedding dress and getting married while recovering from an eating disorder HERE https://www.outdoorchroniclesphotography.com/my-wedding-dress-didnt-fit
For more information about Health At Every Size and Weight-Inclusive Care, Molly recommends:
Reading Anti-Diet by Christy Harrison https://christyharrison.com/book-anti-diet-intuitive-eating-christy-harrison
Listening to Christy Harrison's podcast Food Psych https://christyharrison.com/foodpsych
Following @yrfatfriend on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/yrfatfriend/
Reading up on Weight Stigma in the Medical Field and stereotype-confirming research:
https://dana.org/article/neuroethics-essay-academic-2020/
VISIT US! at thedowntherepodcast.com to learn more about our show, find a transcript of an episode, or send us an email.
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CREDITS:
Music, Sound Design, Editing: Kate Marvin
Producers: Molly Hennighausen, Caitlin Smith Rapoport
Logo Design: Jean Kim Studio
VOTING RIGHTS:
Donate & get involved with Fair Fight! fairfight.com
Support The New Georgia Project! Find out more and donate at newgeorgiaproject.org
Get involved & donate to Black Voters matter at blackvotersmatterfund.org
Thanks for listening!
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Dec 1, 2020
56 min

What do storytelling, the healthcare industry and HPV all have in common? For Torrie Fields, Founder and CEO of Votive Health, the personal is political. Torrie designs serious illness programs for insurance companies and healthcare providers, and has dedicated her life to helping people get what they need out of healthcare. Torrie talks with host Caitlin about how serious illness has shaped her life, work, relationships, and why cervical cancer was the best thing that ever happened to her.
Also in this episode: finding health insurance, getting healthcare professionals to listen to you, HPV, dating after a serious illness, a sexual awakening, and asking yourself what you want from your vagina.
Watch Torrie’s Mystery Box Performance HERE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rkInpk8qvM
Watch Torrie’s EndWell Conference talks: The Personal is Political https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VLWI3bP24g & What Does a Beautiful Death Look Like? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeXHxMhCdHg
Torrie recommends reading A Beginner's Guide to the End: Practical Advice for Living Life and Facing Death By Dr BJ Miller for creating an end of life action plan, at any age. https://www.amazon.com/Beginners-Guide-End-Practical-Advice/dp/1501157167
The End of Life Collective is a community of care givers and care seekers gathered in one place to help you and your family through life’s most important time. https://collective.round.glass/End-of-Life/about
This episode is sponsored by Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app
VOTING:
Decide when and where you’ll vote this year at howto.vote
Your one stop shop to get out the vote and volunteer votesaveamerica.com
Souls to the Polls is a black lead organization that unites ministers and their congregations in Milwaukee’s central city to strengthen the voting power of the Black community.
Learn more at https://actionnetwork.org/groups/souls-to-the-polls
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Producers: Molly Hennighausen, Caitlin Smith Rapoport
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Oct 28, 2020
1 hr 19 min
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