Nick Sandow (aka Joe Caputo on “Orange is the New Black”) joins Gazelle and Margaret for an in-depth conversation about the evolution of his role on the hit Netflix series, which just wrapped filming of season 4. Plus: a discussion of the female-friendly trends in scripted television, of which Orange is a big part.
This episode is sponsored by “Making a Murderer” on Netflix.
Spoilers for “Orange is the New Black” throughout!
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