In this heartfelt episode, Desa Karye Daniel sits down with Holly Truhlar to explore the profound themes of grief, liberation, rupture, and repair through the lens of community care. Together, they delve into personal experiences of how grief has manifested in their lives, sharing intimate stories and reflections. The conversation also touches on the concept of system collapse and Holly's unique passion for mules, weaving together insights that resonate deeply with listeners. Join them for an enlightening discussion that encourages healing and connection in challenging times.

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