This week, the Reframers take on a much-requested topic, the police! As usual, we give the origins and development of policing in America, followed by a very intense discussion into the problems that we face by police, as well as the risks that we take by defunding the police. We each offer some suggestions on ways to improve policing so we can all benefit. This episode has some great topics and is an open, intense conversation that you won't find anywhere else.