Our special twentieth episode—also recorded in 2020—features friend of the pod Dianne! Join us as we talk about moving to a new city, opening up a new chapter of her life, and cats, cats, cats. Fabulous People: Dianne | “A Cat Hater Reflects on a Year of Cat Ownership (2020)” | Gastro Obscura | Blackpink: Light Up the Sky (2020) | The Birth of Korean Cool (2014) | Good Talk: A Memoir in Conversations, Mira Jacob (2019) | Marona's Fantastic Tale (2019)

EP19: It’s Hot, It’s Late, It’s Life (2020) Has it really been three years? Originally recorded in February of 2020, this episode covers our then current living situations—hint: it’s hot—and then Margot has a big surprise topic for Jon! SHOW LINKS: Su Lee, “I’ll Just Dance” | My Octopus Teacher