If you have come across this podcast, you are probably not in a place you ever wanted to be, whether you have experienced a loss or know someone who has and are trying to understand. Jon and Nic are two of the most real and relatable people I have ever had the privilege to “know”, I say “know” because I have not meet Jon and Nic in real life but to listen to their podcast is to know them in a way, because they are as open and brutally honest as anyone can be. If you are looking for something to help you understand your own situation or someone you loves experience I can’t recommend this podcast highly enough they pull the curtains back on all those painful dark places it is so easy to think you are alone in and offer a hand to hold in those horrible places and know you are not alone.