The Pilgrimage Podcast
The Pilgrimage Podcast
Zeru Fitsum
The Pilgrimage Podcast seeks to meet the weary yet admirable pilgrim through the means of edifying, theological, and cultural conversations.
Hanna Leka—Fighting for What You Love
Aye, y'all, what's good! Long time no see. In this episode, I chop it up with one of my favorite creatives, Hanna Leka. She's a SoCal resident who does photography and makes rugs. In this episode she shares many encouraging words to those of us who don't have the energy to stay the course with their gifts and dreams. We go into getting that alone time with God and listening to the voice of the Ultimate Creative who gave us our creative abilities and how relying on that knowledge can sustain us amid our discouragement. Luh y'all big time! Hope You Enjoy! Follow Hanna Leka on Insta Personal Account: @hannerrrs Photography Account: @haniimages
Dec 1, 2022
1 hr 1 min
Brother Jerry—Resisting Self-Reliance and Embracing the Help of Jesus
Aye, y'all, what's good?!?! On this episode, I talk with a friend that I call Brother Jerry. We gotta keep his identity a lil ambiguous for several reasons. But, Jerry is one who knows what it's like to not have to depend on others, and the vulnerable places that dependence actually puts us in. Learning to believe we need those that are different than us is important but it's hard. And Jerry has found this piece of his pilgrimage as crucial. We speak about the tangible ways Jesus has reached out to help Jerry and his family amid gargantuan traumas that still affect them today. I hope y'all enjoy today's episode!  Here is the link to the X-Ray questions Brother Jerry mentions toward the end of the episode: http://storage.cloversites.com/crosshaven/documents/xray.pdf Luh y'all big time! 
Sep 26, 2022
56 min
Dr. Sam Won—The Grace of God in a story of Immigration, Assimilation, Poverty, and Pastoral Ministry
aye, y'all, whatt's good?! Man oh man am I excited about today's episode. We are joined by Dr. Sam Won, Director of Formation and Professor at Dallas Theological Seminary. In all honesty, I invited him so we could talk about the grief around closing a church that was doing well. We do talk about that, yes, but, being so interested in his family's story of immigration, we explore what Sam felt was an almost utopian childhood. We learn about his father's transition to ministry after achieving a psychology degree in Korea; his realization of embedded racism in America even in the era of desegregating schools. Sam shares with us a nature of a life-giving community that called him forth to a life of ministry. With all the triumphs and heartaches that came with this season of Dr. Sam's life, he's found (in his pilgrimage) that Jesus has been good the whole time, and he encourages us with ways to believe the same when we are at our wit's end concerning the faith. 
Sep 13, 2022
1 hr
Unsure Yet Beloved
Today, I share, briefly, about my pilgrimage with my uncertainties with being Beloved. Maybe y'all will find yourself relating. Thank y'all so much for listening and traversing this journey with me. 
Jul 8, 2022
12 min
Pastor Trey Ferguson—Seeing the Bible as a Library and Letting it Inform our Love
Aye, y'all, what's good?!?! Ever since I figured out I was going to have this conversation with Pastor Trey, I haven't been able to keep in my excitement. We talk about the Bible, the Holy Book that I grew up with and continue to love. However, this is a conversation about the Bible many who know me have not heard me voice because of my fear to share my uncertainties about the Bible. Pastor Trey walks us through how his view of the Bible evolved, how college was a crucial time for his inquisitiveness, and God's sustaining hand.  If you have any questions you can always reach out to me on Twitter at ZeruFitsum, or Facebook and Instagram, which are under the same handles.  You can listen to more of Pastor Trey on the 3 Black Men on all Podcast Platforms and The New Living Treyslation where he teaches from passages in the Bible in his unique way.
Jul 1, 2022
1 hr 4 min
Jalynn Baker—Finding Your Voice and the Art of Storytelling
Aye, y'all!! What's good?! Today's episode was recorded with my friend Jalynn Baker. We chat about her story and how she grew a passion for storytelling through photography, as well as through other mediums. She shared about her journey to finding her voice in predominantly white spaces as a Black woman and offers encouragement to aspiring creatives wanting to listen to the voice inside of them that tells them to create! Hope you all enjoy the episode. 
Jun 17, 2022
45 min
Ebenezer Endiryas—The Role of Stand-Up Comedy and the Christian Conscience
Aye, ya'll! What's good?! Excited to release this episode that I recorded with my cousin Ebenezer. We both love stand-up comedy, but we've also noticed how friends of ours in religious circles and the culture in general have had some pauses about comedy. In this episode, we try to discuss what we love about the art and try to extend understanding to those who are not fans of it, or, if not the genre in total, specific comedians. Hope y'all enjoy the convo!
Jun 10, 2022
1 hr 14 min
Back from Hiatus
Aye y'all, what's good?! I'm not gonna lie, for a lil bit, I thought I was just gonna drop off. But, with ample encouragement and feeling compelled by the desire within me to create content, I knew I couldn't stop. Hope y'all have been well. Luh ya big time. 
May 9, 2022
12 min
Wesley Mills—The Mission of God in the World, Listening to Others, and Eschewing Colonial, Missional Tactics
Aye y’all! On today's episode of the Pilgrimage Podcast we got my Pastor, Wesley Mills. We talk about missional living. The questions touch on the shifts that happened in his life that made him believe that joining God's mission in the world was the way he wanted to live. He clarifies misconceptions about the word missional and shares why living with people and loving them is more about listening to them and demonstrating a beautifully lived life through embodied living than it is about convincing them of our theological positions. These past few years, Wes, his wife, and Mosaic Knoxville have been trying to cultivate lives of beauty and grace with a posture that invites the Spirit to do that which dignifies and transforms others.
Mar 8, 2022
56 min
John Onwuchekwa—Holding Honesty and Hope Together in the Wake of Suffering
Aye, y'all, what's good?! Today's episode features Pastor John Onwuchekwa. Pastor John ministers in Atlanta and he also is a board member of the Crete Collective (an organization that supports and strategizes with churches led and populated by minorities). If you're in the Atlanta area, you'll want to check out Portrait Coffee, of which he is a founder.  We talk about his story, an event that changed the course of his life before he went to college, the grief of losing his brother, the joys of adopting his daughter, and the work of continuing on in life. I was a kid in the candy store throughout the course of the convo. Pastor John was dropping gems as to how to cultivate a life that observes the world and works at illustrating every day and being a Christian who is confident in God's care and love. Enjoy, fam!! Luh y'all big time!
Mar 1, 2022
41 min
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